AI-generated art check thread

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HyphenSam said:

Language.

That's English. Happy to help.

WRS said:

Goodness FUCKING gracious dude, several people have tried to engage you in good faith and asked you to stop acting like an asshole and you're just fucking dragging this out for no reason.

If you think it's AI-generated then flag it and do the bare minimum to provide proof or point out the problems.

If you think a post was misjudged, then appeal it and counter the flag reason.

Every post is judged on its own merits. There will never be one universal answer because every post is different. Approvers make the final call.

What is hard to understand about that? What is the point of being obstinate like this? You have done literally nothing else other than chase your own tail around the room with things I've said to you, and when the person who did actually do something in regards to the post you were complaining about replied with why they did so, that too wasn't enough for you.

This post is purely for actual discussion and second opinions. Nothing here ever holds any weight. No word said here is gospel, fact or anything of the sort. You don't have to consider other people's opinions here to take action, you can even do a fun thing called ignoring people, and thinking that this thread is anything more than that is outright wrong.

If you continue shitting up the thread I'm just going to give you a negative for contributing nothing other than bad faith flame wars and trolling on the forum. It's time to move the fuck on. It's clear we can't get you to give a damn to actually do anything useful except complain and argue with people who think you're either wrong or that you're being an asshole to others for nothing other than to grandstand some self-righteous anti-AI stance.

You mean some sweeties understood that "there will never be one universal answer because every post is different" and still shut others' mouths with the word "actual proof" and that's something can be considered good faith and meaningful discussion here?

If you want to end this so much, I can stop and from now on the only thing I do in this thread would be to copy and paste "eh it could make you feel like AI but based on my longtime examination I think we need more actual proof to show it's AI because we don't want AI witchhunting" for every possible AI discussion because that's what you mean by good faith.

But of course you don't want to end this because you didn't ignore me when you say you can ignore people.

Again, do whatever you want. If you think I should get a negative, give me.

eromelon said:

You mean some sweeties understood that "there will never be one universal answer because every post is different" and still shut others' mouths with the word "actual proof" and that's something can be considered good faith and meaningful discussion here?

If you want to end this so much, I can stop and from now on the only thing I do in this thread would be copy and paste "eh it could make you feel like AI but based on my longtime examination I think we need more actual proof to show it's AI because we don't want AI witchhunting" for every possible AI discussion because that's what you mean by good faith.

But of course you don't want to end this because you didn't ignore me when you say you can ignore people.

Again, do whatever you want. If you think I should get a negative, give me.

You were the one who wouldn't end this though; when 8253803 gave you an answer in good faith earlier you still picked an argument with others here. This nonsense needs to stop and honestly, I think a negative feedback is deserved.

Placeholder1996 said:

You were the one who wouldn't end this though; when 8253803 gave you an answer in good faith earlier you still picked an argument with others here. This nonsense needs to stop and honestly, I think a negative feedback is deserved.

I never said I wanted to end this.

WRS said:

It's time to move the fuck on.

Honestly I don't even know what you're talking about anymore. It's so obvious you're trying your absolute hardest to have a gotcha here that you have zero self-awareness about how you keep running around the room in circles thinking you've made a point, and whatever point you're trying to make is so confusing that not even I know what this is about anymore because you're just taking pot shots at literally anyone who replies to you, either to tell you to fix the way you reply to people, or to talk about the actual problem raised.

This is why I can't stand people who contribute nothing of value to the site except to cause trouble. Now I'm genuinely starting to question if the point is unclear, if you're piping posts through a translator and the context is getting dropped, or we're back to the problem of malicious ignorance, but whatever it is, this is not normal.

WRS said:

Honestly I don't even know what you're talking about anymore. It's so obvious you're trying your absolute hardest to have a gotcha here that you have zero self-awareness about how you keep running around the room in circles thinking you've made a point, and whatever point you're trying to make is so confusing that not even I know what this is about anymore because you're just taking pot shots at literally anyone who replies to you, either to tell you to fix the way you reply to people, or to talk about the actual problem raised.

This is why I can't stand people who contribute nothing of value to the site except to cause trouble. Now I'm genuinely starting to question if the point is unclear, if you're piping posts through a translator and the context is getting dropped, or we're back to the problem of malicious ignorance, but whatever it is, this is not normal.

Did I use question mark right? I think there is only one question in my reply to you but I can't make sure what shows up on your screen though.

eromelon said:

You mean some sweeties understood that "there will never be one universal answer because every post is different" and still shut others' mouths with the word "actual proof" and that's something can be considered good faith and meaningful discussion here?

forum #376437 ???

So this will go nowhere, because your number one complaint, even if it's not related to me, is me, and if anyone tries to tell you that you're wrong, then you start throwing a fit and whine; or that you complain about people being noncommittal to a stance and not taking action, despite doing absolutely nothing of value yourself than complaining on this thread.

This charade, over the most trivial things, has gone on long enough. Contribute something of value to the site for a change.

ETA: Just for the record; let's not forget that this all happened because I one time out of many times I've posted here provided a shit, weightless opinion on an album (forum #349478), but you're not really about to go and tell me that an obvious generic AI output with zero cleaning like pixiv #129505949 is not AI. That is the crux of your anger, and I've already clarified once that it wasn't good. Though now you continue to argue for who knows what reason and tune out any attempts to help OR refute how you can better interact with this thread or others, or about the very specific post example you brought up. It's ridiculous.

WRS said:

forum #376437 ???

So this will go nowhere, because your number one complaint, even if it's not related to me, is me, and if anyone tries to tell you that you're wrong, then you start throwing a fit and whine; or that you complain about people being noncommittal to a stance and not taking action, despite doing absolutely nothing of value yourself than complaining on this thread.

This charade, over the most trivial things, has gone on long enough. Contribute something of value to the site for a change.

ETA: Just for the record; let's not forget that this all happened because I one time out of many times I've posted here provided a shit, weightless opinion on an album (forum #349478), but you're not really about to go and tell me that an obvious generic AI output with zero cleaning like pixiv #129505949 is not AI. That is the crux of your anger, and I've already clarified once that it wasn't good. Though now you continue to argue for who knows what reason and tune out any attempts to help OR refute how you can better interact with this thread or others, or about the very specific post example you brought up. It's ridiculous.

In case anyone missed, there is still something of value to the site in this long enough charade: psd files and timelapses are not enough to show an artwork is not AI-generated. It is not my contribution though. Thanks 8253803.

8253803 said:

Tools like layerdivider mean showing the layers of a drawing has become less convincing than when generative AI just started being a problem.

This video came out during the Araizumi Rui controversy. It showed the process of creating a plausible-looking CSP file from an AI image using layerdivider.

By the way, this all happened actually because forum #359799. At that time I guessed you would enjoy fighting more than discussion about AI-generated or not. It is also when I started to ask for a list about what "evidence" is allowed to show an artwork is AI-generated in this thread. It is not something of value to the site but I think it should be something of value to you: you are not good at mind reading.

Check on haruyuki (karem) please, noticed them getting uploaded a bit more recently. I asked a while back at forum #278553 since it was a bit more blatant but nowadays I'm not sure whether they fall under AI-generated, AI-assisted or if they've moved to completely human art. I recently uploaded post #9755378 for approval and an Approver ok'd it so I guess it's good for now but prefer not to upload too much of them if they're still not passing for sufficiently human.

post #9748537

WRS said:

Check on haruyuki (karem) please, noticed them getting uploaded a bit more recently. I asked a while back at forum #278553 since it was a bit more blatant but nowadays I'm not sure whether they fall under AI-generated, AI-assisted or if they've moved to completely human art. I recently uploaded post #9755378 for approval and an Approver ok'd it so I guess it's good for now but prefer not to upload too much of them if they're still not passing for sufficiently human.

post #9755378: For what it's worth, I don't see big issues with hair, eyes, fingers, toes, or bikini, but all the silver she's wearing still have the AI messy lines and coloring.

post #9687000: The bottom two buttons don't align with their holes and it really bothers me, but it's just an artistic error that doesn't indicate AI. I just need to point it out so people can suffer with me.

post #9704763, post #9620788, post #9489290: Can't find evidence for AI.

post #9453727: Consider ai-generated background? Also the studs on the part of her belt that's hanging are very uneven, but the spikes on her collar, bracelets, and armlets are properly drawn, so maybe it's just human error.

Marlor said:

post #9748537

Can't find big flaws, but her sweater cuffs and the buttons on her jacket sleeve still look AI (she should have two buttons per sleeve). Personally can't judge how much human input there is in this.

eromelon said:

psd files and timelapses are not enough to show an artwork is not AI-generated. It is not my contribution though. Thanks 8253803.

layerdivider doesn't invalidate timelapses, just those screen recordings of turning layers off and on, like the one Araizumi Rui posted. Timelapses all need to be judged case by case.

Two analyses of AI timelapses:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N075TWJWKfI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etjxjWzPAwo

post #9748537. This got flagged for AI; I took a long look at it before uploading it to determine if it was AI and thought it wasn’t. I’d like a second opinion to see what i missed if nothing else. (Warning: very NSFW)

post #9364735

Established artist. Bad faith flag?

8253803 said:

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Thanks mate. I'll call it safe for now. Been avoiding mostly because of their older works that are now purged out from their profile which was rough since they draw a lot of my favourite copyright.

ion288 said:

post #9364735

Established artist. Bad faith flag?

There’s no melting lines in the hair despite their close proximity. I’d be surprised if it’s not at least ai-assisted, if not human. Not AI imo.

Placeholder1996 said:

post #9748537. This got flagged for AI; I took a long look at it before uploading it to determine if it was AI and thought it wasn’t. I’d like a second opinion to see what i missed if nothing else. (Warning: very NSFW)

Asides from just the ai accusation, the leg proportions are preeetty iffy. I would've passed on it for that. But I'm no approver (and I would've passed on it due to personal preference anyways).

I looked at some of their posts and noticed some weird things in pretty much all of them.

Personally I think they're generating stuff and cleaning it up then using inpainting for variants.

I saw some of their posts come up in my pixiv recommendations on mobile and most of them looked interesting to me at a glance. Unfortunately I will have to avoid this one. Usually I'd ask why you didn't post the whole variant set as usually that just leaves potentially good art unarchived. In this case it might be better for you that you didn't.

FubukiKai said:

Usually I'd ask why you didn't post the whole variant set as usually that just leaves potentially good art unarchived. In this case it might be better for you that you didn't.

I'm cautious about uploading from new artists precisely for this reason, so I don't suddenly have a bunch of deleted posts on my record. Edit: Also, thank you for analyzing their art as much as you did, it's more than what I was expecting as a response.

I know i brought them up earlier in the thread, but do you think most of preview's art should be flagged or re-evaluated? I myself am not completely confident on how many of their art exactly are AI Generated, but due to the recent exposure, i think it's worth a look.
Plus, their response to this is completely absurd.

FrostedLeaf said:

I know i brought them up earlier in the thread, but do you think most of preview's art should be flagged or re-evaluated? I myself am not completely confident on how many of their art exactly are AI Generated, but due to the recent exposure, i think it's worth a look.
Plus, their response to this is completely absurd.

I recommend only flagging those that you think have bad enough flaws to be removed on the grounds of being ai-generated with not enough human input. For the rest, tag ai-assisted all posts that are later than the date by which you are sure they have started to use AI, but don't flag, since they probably clear the human input requirements.

While we're at it, for post #6782389 I think it's impossible for the artist to not notice that thumb looking weird, so it's probably meant to be under the clothes, just not drawn well enough to get that across.