Should there be a tag group wiki for trans-related stuff?

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I was wondering if we should have a tag group wiki for trans stuff like how Wikipedia has one.

What I have in mind for said tag group wiki:

Symbols

Transitioning(?)

Surgery

Other

Unsure if there should be an attire category that includes chest binder and transgender flag print since it's just 2 tags. Surgery category could go to the transitioning category since it's considered a form of transitioning. I didn't put *** to scrotoplasty because trans men with metoidioplasty also get scrotoplasty and so far, there isn't a post depicting a trans man with metoidioplasty yet. While hormone replacement therapy, phallo and vaginoplasty aren't inherently a trans thing since they were originally invented for cis people such as cis people who don't have gonads, cis women going through menopause, cis men who lost their penises and cis women with short vaginal canals, they're heavily associated with trans people and how trans people pioneered sex reassignment surgery development so I'm gonna add them as well. You can apply this to mastectomy scars as well since cis women with breast cancer and cis men with gynecomastia get them but they're still heavily associated with trans men.

I'm not adding hysterectomy/hysterectomy scar, oophorectomy, salpingectomy or orchiectomy into the surgery category even though trans people also get them to prepare for sex reassignment surgery (or just hysterectomy for trans men who don't want bottom surgery) because they're still heavily associated with cis people as the majority of the oophorectomy posts depict cis women.

I could maybe add large clitoris/huge clitoris and clitoral penetration as testosterone causes the clitoris to enlarge as the clitoris is homologous with the penis, known as "T-dick" in trans communities. I'm unsure for ikea shark despite it being associated with trans people and in trans communities.

Non-binary (ex: non-binary flag) is debatable as there's binary trans people who believe non-binary is considered trans and binary trans people who don't believe non-binary is considered trans and that non-binary is its own thing separately (or straight up don't believe in non-binary).

But overall, is this a good idea or unnecessary for now?

Updated by alexr05

as a transfetishist i'm not sure about the usefulness of a tag group for trans-related stuff that cherry picks which tags belong to it. tag groups are for helping users find tags, not about creating a canonical ontology of tags. missing from this tag group are all gender non-conforming tags like crossdressing, trap, reverse trap, tomboy, feminization, genderswap, male with breasts, etc.

i personally have 3 fetish posts in hormone replacement therapy, so trying to separate it into "this sounds like a fetish and this doesn't" won't really work

some other tf/tg tags are breast expansion, penis reduction and sexuality change, tho i'm not sure if the last one belongs anywhere

trapster77 said in forum #425178:

missing from this tag group are all gender non-conforming tags like crossdressing, trap, reverse trap, tomboy, feminization, genderswap, male with breasts, etc.

I believe they should be considered related or see also tags because being gender non-conforming =/= trans as there's trans women who're tomboys and trans men who're femboys post-transition (post #9341190) as brain sex is way different from crossdressing. Male with breasts could be added as there is actually a post depicting a trans man with male with breasts tag since he's fat (post #9877252) outside of the related/see also category but I'm unsure where it should be.

some other tf/tg tags are breast expansion, penis reduction and sexuality change, tho i'm not sure if the last one belongs anywhere

Breast expansion could be added in the context of trans women, penis reduction, probably not. Sexuality change can sometimes actually happen in trans people upon transitioning in the real world (I know a trans woman who went from lesbian to straight upon transitioning) but we don't have a post depicting a trans person transitioning and their sexuality changing post on Danbooru yet. It seems way too niche to be added in.

This makes me think if there should be a tag group wiki specifically for femboys as crossdressing and being trans itself are 2 fundamentally different concepts.

Regarding pre-op trans women/men (no bottom surgery) in rating:e and rating:q, they're tagged with futanari and cuntboy in regards with their phenotypic sex so futanari and cuntboy should be in see also or related I think.

Updated by alexr05

Tag groups are purely for the benefit of taggers, they have no impact on posts. You can create one if you want. It makes sense in this case due to all the specific subculture terms that might not be obvious to a casual gooner.

sorry if this is considered necroposting but should troonjak be in the lgbt 4chan section if its origins was from transphobia but sometimes used on /tttt/? Sometimes, 4tranners comment "something something something ACKKK" as sarcasm or a self-deprecating joke kinda like reclaimation since they also say trans slurs like how black people refer eachother the n word. Or just "other" category like:

?

Updated by alexr05

ggraphy said in forum #430097:

If we are at it (again), troonjak needs a better, if not "the" example post but I'm afraid to upload it in regards it wouldn't be approved.

You can upload images without posting them. After uploading, click on the hyperlink directly below the image (the one with the file size and resolution) and it will take you to the upload's media asset page. Check your browser's URL bar and make sure it says "media_assets," then copy the number from the URL. Then type "* !asset #(YOUR NUMBER HERE)" to add it to a comment or wiki page.

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