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@Funny_clock_mans_topguy

I'm sorry, this discussion died two years ago. Who are you?

Giga_Skunk said in comment #2597315:

@Funny_clock_mans_topguy

I'm sorry, this discussion died two years ago. Who are you?

GuP Gooner

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Myapocalypse said in comment #2597354:

damn, didn't know ((they)) run danbooru too

I know right

@Funny_clock_mans_topguy @Myapocalypse

Yes, Danbooru has white people in its mod team I’m pretty sure

They have nothing to do with the horrible shit still happening in Gaza.

You speak of Jewish people but it’s really just another instance of colonialism, same with the native Americans, same with South Africa, same with China. “They” have little to do with.

Most of the perps aren’t even “Them”, they’re primarily atheists, white supremacists, Christians, actual nazis, and islamaphobes, so 🤷🏿

Even if they’re “Jewish”, Judaism is a religion. Anyone can be Jewish. And the horrible shit in Gaza is happening in the name of colonialism. It’s not unique, which is why I hate it so much tbh.

I’m sure if you buffons understood that instead of seething and crying about a white person practicing a different religion than you, you’d jump for joy, sign up for the front lines of the Israeli “Defense” Force finding out for the first and last time war is not a game as a Hamas fighter lines you up in their sights

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Myapocalypse said in comment #2597374:

The rules of this entire website seem so strange. It must seem like I am just trolling, but that really is not my intention. I just don't understand why AI is allowed but only if some moderator likes it or not. And at the same time no 'paid content' is allowed... why? And loli/shota is only allowed... if you pay money for a pass?

Genuinely who made the rules of this website?

First, loli and shota are allowed in general, you just can't see it with a basic account, and buying an account upgrade hasn't been possible in like eight years.
Second, paid content isn't allowed because sharing images paywalled by the artists is simply a dick move.
Third, fully AI-generated images aren't art, they're slop spat out by an algorithm, and the point of danbooru is to be an art archival site.
In addition, artists can file takedown requests and have their art permanently removed from the site, which is relevant for the second and third points, because effectively robbing them of potential income and hosting images generated by models trained on stolen art is a great way to piss them off enough for them to go out of their way to have all their art taken down.

In short, the site does have some very stupid tagging guidelines, but the rules do make sense.

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Myapocalypse said in comment #2597377:

I really am trying my best to not sound argumentative.

I disagree on all fronts. Loli/shota is locked behind a paywall that you cannot even pay to see anymore?

There are other ways to upgrade your account. If you put in enough work to improve the site (including but not limited to tagging and uploads), you can be promoted to Builder rank. Alternatively, you can get Platinum by winning one of the Platinum raffles held occasionally in the forums. And both of these are better than Gold.

Protecting artists that don't allow anyone to see their art unless they pay money?

Yes, because we're not thieves.

Calling all AI-generated art 'algorithm slop'? There are AI-generated illustrations that are truly beautiful. They are rare, but they do exist. I dislike or don't really care about most AI art, just like I dislike/don't care for most hand-drawn illustrations. But beauty is subjective, as the moderators that judge it seem to understand.

AI isn't just unpopular here because of a few bad fingers. It's also because a lot of the art used to train the AI was done so without the artists' consent.

The rule I am confused about is how much exactly does the human need to draw, because I see many AI posts with hundreds of likes that do not seem hand-drawn in the slightest.

Our approval system is not based on popularity. A post can be both popular and still against the rules.

As for the amount of human involvement, there isn't really a hard line, but the more human involvement, the better. Note that while AI-assisted posts are technically allowed, they're still borderline and are inherently less likely to be approved than something entirely human-made.

Myapocalypse said in comment #2597381:

let me put it another way.

let's lock Yuri and Yaoi behind a paywall that no one can access too. Let's lock furry and dark skin there too. Hell, let's lock nipples pussy and penis behind a paywall. Why would this make any sense? Does locking loli and shota make any more sense to you? if so, why?

Because loli/shota content is much riskier than any of the others you mentioned.

for Patreon/fanbox/etc users: same logic, but at least you can actually pay to see their work I suppose. But why doesn't everyone who makes art just put it on Patreon? That way you must 'support' the artist. The people who post to Patreon don't usually even care about the work they post there, and you can tell. I have seen many artists that give passion and soul to drawings they actually care about, yet churn out actual hand-drawn 'slop' when it comes to commissions for characters and concepts you can easily tell they are only drawing for money.

That is a massive overgeneralization, and even if it were true, how would that justify us stealing paid content from them?

And finally the AI-assisted thing. It seems I am the minority and that's fine. But let's say loli is banned right? The guidelines for what is and is not loli seems fairly clear, I don't see many posts that can be argued to be called loli even though the tag loli is also ambiguous. (oppai loli, mature females with flat chests, etc). Yet I see many posts made by AI approved, some that are tagged AI assisted and some that are not tagged as AI at all.

I am just screaming into the void... don't mind me...

Again, not all AI-generated posts are immediately spotted. Even experienced users upload them by accident. If you see one that you are certain is AI, then tag it and flag it, preferably with evidence for the post being AI.

And loli is meant strictly for characters that look prepubescent. Its proper use is not ambiguous. Mature females would not apply for the tag. Oppai lolis are more of a grey area because how mature they look can vary. Some are clearly young but still have decent overall development, while others just look like little kids with huge boobs tacked on.

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