Upload Feedback Thread - post here if your uploads keep getting deleted

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HyphenSam said:

It's not hate. Danbooru has very high quality standards compared to other boorus, and is the reason why self-uploading is discouraged. If you just want to post your own art, there are other more suitable sites like Twitter, Pixiv, Deviantart, etc.

When I was referring to hate, I mean the amount of downvotes that the posts get. However, do you think that this is below the quality standard for this booru?
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HyphenSam said:

Yes. Also, if you're self-uploading then please tag them with your artist tag.

Then how could it be improved to meet the standards? What qualifies as quality? I know that the system is inherently flawed since it's all subjective, but when there are much more basic posts with far less obvious effort, what is quality being measured by?

Kubo_Tite_stan said:

Then how could it be improved to meet the standards? What qualifies as quality? I know that the system is inherently flawed since it's all subjective, but when there are much more basic posts with far less obvious effort, what is quality being measured by?

Really, just convincing a single approver who sees it as being good enough.

Some obvious points though are good anatomy for character posts and highly detailed scenery.

malachite_reaper said:

1) Art doesn't have to violate any specific site rule or guideline to not get approved. All deletion means is that nobody who looked at it said "yes, that one".
2) Her torso anatomy does look weird, and the art isn't stylized enough to make that not uncanny. Sometimes, aiming for realism hurts rather than helps.
3) Looking at posts from fifteen years ago is not a good guide to what will get approved now.
4) Even if it were, posts are approved on their own merit, without reference to whether they're better or worse than other posts depicting the same character - approvers aren't aiming to make consistent rulings according to predictable guidelines, they're just approving what they think looks good. The mod queue runs on individual people's aesthetic sense; it being arbitrary isn't a bad thing.

Among the various "disinterest" responses, one of them also stated it was "poor quality". This is, by any real artistic standard, absurd. If I showed this art to any art critic and compared it with the average post that gets accepted here, 100% would say the art I had posted was better.

I think if you would be more honest about standards, you'd state that they prefer cutesy, anime-style art over more detailed/intricate art. This is demonstrated in the huge amount of posts that show minimal artistic talent but fit the anime style that stay up on this board. That's fine, if it's the kind of website you want; just be honest about the standards here. Something like this (quickly approved) did not take any mastery of anatomy or color or composition to create, and the face barely looks like a human face, and apparently was "high-quality" enough to be approved:

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(To your numbered points:
2) "Weird" is subjective, but the torso anatomy is *not* weird relative to realistic physiques. Comparison with any photograph of a person making the same pose would demonstrate this.
3) Red herring--implies quality standards are different now from then. I don't see this. There's low-quality art that gets approved now just as there was then.)

Gentleman-Coomer said:

Among the various "disinterest" responses, one of them also stated it was "poor quality". This is, by any real artistic standard, absurd. If I showed this art to any art critic and compared it with the average post that gets accepted here, 100% would say the art I had posted was better.

So you're saying that among all art critics, who have different tastes and come from various backgrounds and cultures, every single one would favor your art over the average post here? Sure, okay.

Gentleman-Coomer said:

I think if you would be more honest about standards, you'd state that they prefer cutesy, anime-style art over more detailed/intricate art. This is demonstrated in the huge amount of posts that show minimal artistic talent but fit the anime style that stay up on this board. That's fine, if it's the kind of website you want; just be honest about the standards here. Something like this (quickly approved) did not take any mastery of anatomy or color or composition to create, and the face barely looks like a human face, and apparently was "high-quality" enough to be approved:

post #7834396

Help:upload rules is very upfront about what this site is for:

Upload Rules said:

Danbooru is primarily for anime-style or anime-related artwork. "Anime-related" is a broad term that includes anime, manga, videogames, original artwork, and other similar material.

You also seem to be under the mistaken impression that simpler styles are automatically inferior. The truth of the matter is that it doesn't matter how sophisticated your art techniques are or how many traditional art principles you follow if the users don't like the end result. Most people come here because they find anime-style art aesthetically pleasing. If you don't like anime styles or think they're inferior (which would be ironic considering the character from your post is from an anime), then you'd be better off finding another site.

That said, we're actually more permissive towards realistic styles than we were in the past. Your post would probably have even less chance of being approved back then despite the lower quality standards. But a lot is still expected from realistic styles here. Browsing through approver:any realistic will give you an idea of how good your art must be to have a decent chance here.

Also, to add onto Nacha's earlier statement:

Nacha said:

This post was not Approved. It was uploaded by an unrestricted User. Unres uploads dont go through the mod queue

Users gain unrestricted upload permissions when they reach Contributor, which is one rank below Approver. This is important because the average contributor should be expected to have high uploading standards, but their tastes may be very different from approvers. This makes it easier for niche content the approvers may overlook to be active on the site, but there's a risk of contributors uploading low-quality material.

The way we counter this is with the flagging system. When a post is flagged, it will be sent to the mod queue and it must be approved to become active again. All users can flag posts, including you. If you think a post isn't good enough for this site, then make your voice heard and flag it. You can read howto:flag for more details.

Also, if an approver uploads something, it's basically equivalent to it being approved in the mod queue. The user that uploaded post #7834396, which you complained about, is an admin.

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post #7794166

Aside from niche copyright and simple backgrounds, is there anything in these posts that limited their ability to be approved? Is there a significant difference between the quality of these posts and that of approved art from the same artist like post #7794213? At a glance, the only major difference I see is the lighting (e.g., the reflection of light off the hat in 7790503 is simpler than that of 7794213), but I’m not sure if I’m over-analyzing or if I’m missing some other detail.

drinkyourvegetables said:

post #7790503
post #7794166

Aside from niche copyright and simple backgrounds, is there anything in these posts that limited their ability to be approved? Is there a significant difference between the quality of these posts and that of approved art from the same artist like post #7794213? At a glance, the only major difference I see is the lighting (e.g., the reflection of light off the hat in 7790503 is simpler than that of 7794213), but I’m not sure if I’m over-analyzing or if I’m missing some other detail.

post #7794213 has some lighting and shadows, and an active composition. By contrast post #7790503 has much less detail, fewer lines in general and almost no shading, and a badly drawn face perspective (nose mouth and eyes are all pointing in different directions)
post #7794166 is less flawed, it might have a chance on appeal (there are certainly lower quality posts that have been approved) but overall it's not great for the same reasons as above.

The biggest reason post #7794213 got approved and the others didn't is probably that the approver thought yawning is cute and interesting, whereas the other 2 don't have much going on.

SchattenReiter said:

There are some deleted posts where the number of upvotes or favorites from general users exceeds the number of disapprovals.
Is there a tendency for NSFW images to be less likely to be approved?

Upvotes and favourites have no impact on the approvability of posts. Rating general posts tend to have an easier time getting approved.

HyphenSam said:

Upvotes and favourites have no impact on the approvability of posts. Rating general posts tend to have an easier time getting approved.

I noticed that yep, but is it normal that some posts are more likely to be checked than others ? I am asking that because for example my last pending post has been checked by only 2 approvers so far even though I have posted it 2 days ago. (EDIT : It got approved now) But I guess it mostly depends on the time period and there are moments where more approvers are online than others ? Or maybe most are just disinterested or didn't pay attention ?

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