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BUR #56688 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
create alias braided_sidelock -> single_braided_sidelock
remove alias braided_sidelock -> single_braided_sidelock
Convention for a tag with both a singular and plural form is to prefix the singular form with "single". Right now, braided sidelock interferes with the autocomplete for braided sidelocks since the difference is only pluralising sidelock. Alias to move the tag, unalias for autocomplete reasons.
BUR #56705 is pending approval.
create alias side_braid -> single_side_braid
remove alias side_braid -> single_side_braid
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BUR #56854 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
rename low-tied_sidelock -> single_low-tied_sidelock
Only 16 posts with this, but I think it makes sense for this to follow braided sidelock.
side braid at the moment is used for anything from sidelocks (side_braid braided_sidelock*, 200 posts) to braids that are over one's shoulder (side_braid hair_over_shoulder, 2k posts!).
I don't think there's much point in distinguishing it from sidelocks, but for it to be an alternative and not a padding tag for hair over shoulder it needs to have a better name than single side braid, especially since it's so large and people will just use it regardless of what's written on the wiki otherwise.
The bulk update request #56854 (forum #425700) has been approved by @nonamethanks.
The bulk update request #56688 (forum #425168) has been approved by @nonamethanks.
The braid tags are all a mess. Is Izayoi Sakuya's hairstyle twin braids, side braids, or braided sidelocks? Is Kirisame Marisa's hairstyle a single braid, a side braid, or a single braided sidelock?
The creation of braided sidelocks and single braided sidelock means that now we're supposed to be making a distinction now between sidelocks and non-sidelocks, but this distinction is not always easy to make. The distinction is supposed to be that braided sidelocks go in front of the ears while side braids go behind or beside the ears, but in practice it's not always easy to tell when the ears are obscured. The position of the braids can also vary by depiction, so a single character can have their tagging split between side braids and braided sidelocks. Not to mention that every character tagged twin braids now needs to be tagged either side braids or braided sidelocks, depending on the exact position of the braids.
There's also the question of whether single braided sidelock should imply single braid or single sidelock or both. Recall that braided ponytail doesn't imply ponytail because that would leave us no tag for regular unbraided ponytails. This suggests that single braided sidelocks should also be kept separate from regular unbraided sidelocks, but braided sidelocks already implies sidelocks, so we've already gone back on the idea that braids should be kept separate from non-braids.
Meanwhile, single braid historically was often used for the dead mom hair over shoulder hairstyle, which we don't have any other tag for, so if we take the next step and make single braid an umbrella tag for single braided sidelock and single side braid, then it makes that hairstyle even harder to find and necessitates making some kind of new braided ponytail over shoulder tag for it.
I don't really know what to do here besides to say that someone needs to go through all the braid tags and think through how they should be defined and organized. Otherwise we get into these messes where we have too many overlapping or poorly defined tags and it's not clear what the difference between things like twin braids and side braids is supposed to be.
evazion said in forum #435561:
The braid tags are all a mess. Is Izayoi Sakuya's hairstyle twin braids, side braids, or braided sidelocks? Is Kirisame Marisa's hairstyle a single braid, a side braid, or a single braided sidelock?
The creation of braided sidelocks and single braided sidelock means that now we're supposed to be making a distinction now between sidelocks and non-sidelocks, but this distinction is not always easy to make. The distinction is supposed to be that braided sidelocks go in front of the ears while side braids go behind or beside the ears, but in practice it's not always easy to tell when the ears are obscured. The position of the braids can also vary by depiction, so a single character can have their tagging split between side braids and braided sidelocks.
To me, Izayoi Sakuya and Kirisame Marisa definitely have braided sidelocks and single braided sidelock respectively in their typical hairstyles (as opposed to side braids or side braid) since their braided hair is typically in front of their ears. I do definitely see though how there can be cases which are hard to determine.
What isn't totally clear to me though is twin braids and single braid. Right now it seems like twin braids encompasses braided sidelocks (along with hairstyles where two braids are present that are generally symmetrical/identical to each other) and single braid encompasses single braided sidelock (along with other hairstyles where only a single braid is present). But I don't know if there's consensus on that since there aren't already tag implications for these relationships.
evazion said in forum #435561:
Not to mention that every character tagged twin braids now needs to be tagged either side braids or braided sidelocks, depending on the exact position of the braids.
I think the twin braids tag is more broad than that. In addition to those two tags it also is used for stuff like post #11249438 where the majority of the character's hair forms two braids instead of just locks of hair near the ear.
evazion said in forum #435561:
There's also the question of whether single braided sidelock should imply single braid or single sidelock or both. Recall that braided ponytail doesn't imply ponytail because that would leave us no tag for regular unbraided ponytails. This suggests that single braided sidelocks should also be kept separate from regular unbraided sidelocks, but braided sidelocks already implies sidelocks, so we've already gone back on the idea that braids should be kept separate from non-braids.
Meanwhile, single braid historically was often used for the dead mom hair over shoulder hairstyle, which we don't have any other tag for, so if we take the next step and make single braid an umbrella tag for single braided sidelock and single side braid, then it makes that hairstyle even harder to find and necessitates making some kind of new braided ponytail over shoulder tag for it.
There does need to be a consistent standard. I'd prefer just getting rid of the separation across the board and instead having braided versions of any given hairstyle implicate the general tag for that hairstyle, but I think braided ponytail currently would cause problems with doing that since there's a lot of posts currently tagged with braided ponytail that wouldn't appropriately be tagged with ponytail.
