fairyboobles said:
Blank_User said:
I was under the impression that the request tag was ALSO for when you dont actually know if something is original or not, considering what it says on the upload wiki page (which says "Place a copyright_request if you cannot surely identify it", to be honest, if the copyright request wiki says you need to be SURE its actually from a copyright, that kind of defeats most of the point of the tag does it not? but thats a different discussion). Regardless, these posts still need to be tagged as original or *something* if they don't have a copyright tag. I would be curious if you had a better tag or solution to suggest here. Perhaps "check copyright" would be better? However, that tag only has 3k posts compared to the 86k of copyright request tag so idk if I love that tbh.
That’s even worse. If you add check copyright to those posts, you’d still be adding copyright request. Now users will have to remove two tags instead of one. Furthermore, check copyright is only to be used after a copyright has been identified. It should not be put on posts with 0 copytags.
Edit: I see you addressed this as I was typing this.
You're forgetting that regular members exist who can't search more than 2 tags at a time, so no, its not easy to search actually. You're also forgetting that tagging with some sort of copyright tag (whether its original, or a metatag for it) is a minimal requirement for tagging posts on danbooru. I am looking for solutions here.
As for gardening --- these posts would need to be gardened ANYWAY, how is it creating more work? There 83k+ copyright request tags already, adding 18k is yes substantial but only makes it easier for actual members to search for it + still have another slot for one more tag. I don't really think your point makes sense the more I think about it.
Both copytags:0 and copyright_request are single-tag searches. Basic members can add one more tag no matter which one they choose.
Yes, the posts do need copytags, but tagging them all with copyright request won’t actually make them easier to find. Users can simply search for copytags:0 to find these posts. The extra work comes from users needing to remove the request tags after they have been fulfilled, and as I already explained, it is very easy to forget to remove those tags.
Just because it won't update new posts why does that mean we can't take care of the 18k posts in there now lol? I dont understand this logic, if we need to do it again at some point okay then make a new bur lol. I really hate the idea of "well just bc ppl are gonna keep mistagging in the future that means we shouldnt do anything about cleaning up the mistagged posts that already exist now!".
No, what I’m saying is that this BUR would cause more problems than it would solve. We can’t just throw BURs at everything; some things need to be done manually. And this BUR will do nothing to make gardening easier.
If you actually look at the tags, you would very quickly find out why this point is so wrong lol. There is a shit ton of spam and general trash/troll posts in there, that really don't need to be tagged at ALL much less thrown in any other metatag. I think if we are going to be moving these into a tag that others are actively looking at/gardening, then we can do them the courtesy of not throwing in thousands of trash/troll posts no?
Yes, I am aware of those posts, and they are still subject to the same tagging requirements as other posts. Deleted posts are hidden by default anyway, so coming across those will only be an issue for those that have their account set up to show deleted posts.