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Blank_User said:
Which game? As an American, I will tell you that the U.S. Government almost never bans games as doing so would violate our constitutionโs First Amendment. [...]
In general if someone is misremembering a Japanese hentai game that was "banned" it's pretty much always RapeLay, and as you said it isn't actually banned in the US.
aTeinZ said:
I know ts gonna be downvoted but Godlord no way this statement will validate anything. By this logic then why I can't upload someone such as anya, becky or anyone around her "look" here? (as you mention there's no such concept of "age" for the fictional characters)
The answer way simpler but i guess you can figure it out
Sigfried666 was arguing about what should be, not what is. Which, by the way, probably isn't even necessary to do since they're pretty much preaching to the choir anyway.
Also, not only can you still upload these as blindVigil mentioned, you can also see your own loli/shota uploads. You just can't see ones posted by others.
Nickle_Cradle_Colorado said:
I disagree with most art too, especially loli, since I believe what someone consumes in fiction will partially affect their reality, though that wont make me hate them, since at least it isn't Chile where the age of consent is 14 (I forgot the name of which it was but one country has an age of consent of 9 years old)
I think you can only speak for yourself on that matter. I've played my fair share of Mario games and never felt the urge to jump on random turtles.
There are likely some people that can't compartmentalize these things and need to avoid them. That does not mean those that can need to as well. The onus is on the consumer, not the producer.
Blank_User said:
Sigfried666 was arguing about what should be, not what is. Which, by the way, probably isn't even necessary to do since they're pretty much preaching to the choir anyway.
Also, not only can you still upload these as blindVigil mentioned, you can also see your own loli/shota uploads. You just can't see ones posted by others.
I think you can only speak for yourself on that matter. I've played my fair share of Mario games and never felt the urge to jump on random turtles.
There are likely some people that can't compartmentalize these things and need to avoid them. That does not mean those that can need to as well. The onus is on the consumer, not the producer.
I didn't mean it as in the jump on turtle intrusive thoughts, I more meant fetish art, since most people (not saying all) people who have had some thing to do with loli almost always seemed creepy
Sigfried666 said:
We may be playing differente sports with different goals here.
But of course, I don't believe my musings will have power to change moralists' minds, even less countries laws.
But my belief is that ART based on FICTIONAL characters should not be considered criminal material for they are not real.Ficitional characters should not be subject to laws made for real people. It makes no sense.
I think we are. Keep in mind that am not trying to bring any politics, law and stuff here. None of my statement above affiliate with law and stuff since it's a fiction.
Sigfried666 said:
You mentioned Anya and Becky (I suppose you meant the Spy x Family children characters).
Let's work with Anya, then, for a moment. Anya began her existence at the age 5 or 6, back when the manga started, in 2019.
That's six years ago. But is Anya now considered 11 or 12?
Of course not, TIME does not exist for drawings and fictional characters. She will NEVER reach adulthood by means of real world time passage.
BUT a timeskip in the story could jump her to beyond adulthood in the blink of an eye. In two mere real world weeks, she could skip to being and adult, or even a mother. That's part of the nature of being a character.The same applies to Hina, here. She was 17 when the game first released, back in 2021. She is still 17. She will forever be skirting along the underage side of the law. Maybe a different version of her, aged up, coming from a different world, could appear, but that's not the point.
Human brain can gather information and make an assumption and hypothesis through abstract and minimum information given. While you saying that no concept of age on a fictional characters, it maybe does but you really cannot say that you make an assumption on 3 different characters I've mentioned above. People can see the character, let's say it's Anya Forger; is an elementary school around 9-12. You really cannot say she's 16 or 17 and people will agree with that, and vice versa; saying sorasaki hina that already can felt love and affection and call her a 8 year old girl.
Sigfried666 said:
And when censorship comes for the lolicon art, it is not about protecting real children (nor fictional children), it's about control.
That's where things can go out of our control.For if we consider the lolicon art the same as real child abuse, then we are ready to go further. Fictional rape, cheating and all sorts of sexual fetishes will be scrutinized next. But it might not stop there.
Violence can fall under scrutiny too, and then we would need to censor action mangas and movies, for those have both villains and heroes commiting murder.I'm drifiting away from the subject. Sorry.
What I mean to say is that ALL art should be allowed to exist. Even art I dislike and disgree with. For art is a means of expression, and should not be conflated with action.
People thinking that am being jerk going judging over someone tastes right now. But am not. None of my statement that am against the loli stuff. Who am i judging someone taste? Im trying to say that if you want to defend something, just make it atleast logical. My very first comment exist because it wasn't logic at all
aTeinZ said:
People thinking that am being jerk going judging over someone tastes right now. But am not. None of my statement that am against the loli stuff. Who am i judging someone taste? Im trying to say that if you want to defend something, just make it atleast logical. My very first comment exist because it wasn't logic at all
The comment was making the case for why it should be legal in response to another comment saying it was illegal in their country. Defending its legality is completely logical in this circumstance. The reasons why people may be disgusted by it or why we donโt tag teenagers with loli or shota are completely different issues.
Blank_User said:
why we donโt tag teenagers with loli or shota are completely different issues.
This is a bit misleading, because we DO tag teenagers with the loli tag. It would be more correct to say any character with a body less developed physically than a teenager.
asianboy said:
Seeing the back and forth in the tag history, in case you don't know, ironmouse isn't affiliated with vshojo anymore. It's been a few weeks since all of their talents left and vshojo imploded as a company.
I'm well aware, I reverted the tag because the artist drew this before the whole controversy when she was still affiliated. I am not invested enough with Vtubers to tag battle on it, but it does predate the drama so I think it should still have the tag.
For whomever gave mecha request tag: I don't think we can tag this. It's just a random build you can have in-game, not specifically any NPC AC. Instead it references Power Baka Twenty, a heavyweight PVP build.
Head: HD-033M VERRILL
Core: CS-5000 MAIN DISH
Arms: DF-AR-09 TIAN-LAO
Legs: VE-42A
L/R-Arms: SG-027 ZIMMERMAN
R-Back: BML-G2/P05MLT-10
L-Back: VP-61PS
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MSLabo102 said:
For whomever gave mecha request tag: I don't think we can tag this. It's just a random build you can have in-game, not specifically any NPC AC. Instead it references Power Baka Twenty, a heavyweight PVP build.
Head: HD-033M VERRILL
Core: CS-5000 MAIN DISH
Arms: DF-AR-09 TIAN-LAO
Legs: VE-42A(Arm Weapons unidentified, but actual PB20 uses SG-027 ZIMMERMAN)
R-Back: BML-G2/P05MLT-10
L-Back: VP-61PS
Those look like the 'stocks' of Zimmermen.
BrasilianBarbecue said:
Putting pea shooters in the third row from the left is enough to defeat normal zombies (and even cone zombies ifrc). That plus the small nut as defense is good enough for the first few levels.
Generally speaking two rows of flowers are optimal in my experience.
Plus more sunflower = more sun = more peashooters. Left one is clearly playing on schizo mode.
DammitCarl said:
Sunflower is like your economy. Sacrificing your economy so your soldiers can fight longer is... certainly a chice. Not a good one or a smart one or heck, even a logical one, but certainly one.
That's true in real life and in most strategy/tactics/4X games, but sunflowers are so cheap and replaceable (and space is so limited) in the PvZ games it is the good and smart and logical choice.
Doesn't make it any less callous though, at least for people who care for their virtual plants.
>Greys stand out on a battlefield therefore no greys
Meanwhile...
And yes, the Royal Scots Greys were exclusively mounted on... greys...
Cheesecakes99 said:
>Greys stand out on a battlefield therefore no greys
Meanwhile...
And yes, the Royal Scots Greys were exclusively mounted on... greys...
Mousquetaires gris (Grey Musketeers), Gray Horse Troop (Company E, 7th Cavalry, under Custer), various companies in various US Army and US state regiments, some companies in Prussian and Napoleonic cavalry regiments...
Though yeah most of them are at company strength, not the ENTIRE regiment, unlike the Royal Scots Greys. Ironically the Royal Scots Greys were originally named for the color of their coats, not horses.
Anyway, before WWI, being highly conspicuous is more of an advantage on the battlefield instead of a disadvantage (at least the kind of battles Europeans fought). More so for cavalry. Helps commanders keep track of which troop is which and organize them effectively. Of course, over time in an active battlefield it does get less practical to keep all horses of the same color.
That said, I do remember reading somewhere that the Japanese (in the military samurai tradition) bred warhorses to blend in, among other things. So camouflage was a valued trait, and when the warhorse breeding tradition carried over to racehorse breeding (in Japan), they still initially viewed grey horses with disdain and were hesitant to import them.
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