The same points have been made about fictional violence in media, but most people don't really seem to care anymore and gamers have always defended violence's place in video games, so it's still hypocritical to argue against loli/shota art and not argue against fictional violence based only on those points. The only difference is that the former is more geared toward getting people off, which makes some people more willing to cross the line from "This is gross and I won't look at it" to "You're gross for liking it and I will judge you" or even "They're gross for promoting it and should be shut down/arrested." The above complaint of "literal pedofiles (sic)" is a good example of this.
No, it's not the same. The argument on violence in video games is that video games sculpted violent behavior. loli argument is that pedos look for loli. The cause and effect relations are completely flipped. This is why I consider the defense of it so disingenuous. It's a deliberate misreading of the basic premise to justify their desired outcome. Video game violence argument got the flak for doing the same thing, and so should the loli defense.
No, it's not the same. The argument on violence in video games is that video games sculpted violent behavior. loli argument is that pedos look for loli. The cause and effect relations are completely flipped. This is why I consider the defense of it so disingenuous. It's a deliberate misreading of the basic premise to justify their desired outcome. Video game violence argument got the flak for doing the same thing, and so should the loli defense.
I don't think the fact that actual pedophiles would enjoy it is a good argument against it either. And if you meant they could use it for grooming purposes, I'm sure real CP, or even legal adult pornography, would be sufficient, and probably more effective.
I don't think the fact that actual pedophiles would enjoy it is a good argument against it either. And if you meant they could use it for grooming purposes, I'm sure real CP, or even legal adult pornography, would be sufficient, and probably more effective.
No, I'm saying it's entertainment catering to that degeneracy not merely they happen to enjoy it. "Hitler liked dogs thus all dogs are bad" is not the argument. "Jewish snuff is made for Hitler" is the point. It's catering and normalization that's the source of the argument. The intent of the entertainment isn't tangentally appealing to awful people, it's directly marketing toward them.
No, I'm saying it's entertainment catering to that degeneracy not merely they happen to enjoy it. "Hitler liked dogs thus all dogs are bad" is not the argument. "Jewish snuff is made for Hitler" is the point. It's catering and normalization that's the source of the argument. The intent of the entertainment isn't tangentally appealing to awful people, it's directly marketing toward them.
Ah, making assumptions about other people's intentions, a classic fake argument.
No, I'm saying it's entertainment catering to that degeneracy not merely they happen to enjoy it. "Hitler liked dogs thus all dogs are bad" is not the argument. "Jewish snuff is made for Hitler" is the point. It's catering and normalization that's the source of the argument. The intent of the entertainment isn't tangentally appealing to awful people, it's directly marketing toward them.
"Violent videogames are made for murderers." It's the same argument.
I already opened this can of worm once so my mind is already telling me not to do it again, but people should really stop with the whole "pineanpple on pizza = spawn of Satan" bs. If you have tried it and arrived at the conclusion that it's not for you, that's fine and I respect your opinion.
Mayhem-Chan said: So i'm really curious, do you really taste both the pineapple and the pizza simultaneously? with No mutual taste-cancellation shenanigans?
It really depends on how the pineapple is handled, if it's dried properly and allowed to toast and develop a bark in the oven it takes amazing, if it's still soggy, it tastes like vomit and makes the pizza damp.
About the only thing I can say about pineapple is that it has no business with marinara sauce (for me, anyway). A California chain has a pizza with pineapple, chicken, and American bacon with BBQ sauce instead of marinara and it's damn good.
Dude, seriously. Nightingale isn't a doctor but a nurse, and nurses pretty much work in 3/8, with little time to rest or even personal lives, and you gotta go and wake her up like that? I'm finding that Gudao more and more dislikeable.
If I had a nickel for every time someone posted a manga of Verxina having nightmares about Gentildonna pulling a Narita Top Road on her sisters, I'd have three. Not a whole lot, but still.
I can't help but find this picture to be incredibly silly. I think it has to do with the fact that both dinos appear to have stupid grins on their faces.
Either that or it could be the Tethercat Principle at work.
LightningRamiel said: I can't help but find this picture to be incredibly silly. I think it has to do with the fact that both dinos appear to have stupid grins on their faces.
Either that or it could be the Tethercat Principle at work.
You must be over-imaginative, 'cause i don't see any "stupid grins".
