Rename bound_* body parts

BUR #56761 is pending approval.

create alias bound_wrists -> wrists_bound_together
create alias bound_arms -> arms_bound_together
create alias bound_legs -> legs_bound_together
create alias bound_ankles -> ankles_bound_together
create alias bound_thighs -> thighs_bound_together
create alias bound_knees -> knees_bound_together
create alias bound_feet -> feet_bound_together

Wikis for those tags state that they should apply to body parts tied to each other, which seems to be not immediately apparent just from the tag name. As a result, I occasionally see them misused on posts where the limbs, or a single limb, are restrained or tied to something else, like a wall, a pole, a bed frame, or other object.

Are we going to formally make it so things like post #9369919 don't count as bound legs then? Yes, the wiki has long suggested that they don't, but the tag has been regularly used for such things for just as long.

If we do make it so bound legs is no longer used for that, it could probably do with a tag of its own.

skylightcrystal said in forum #425424:

Are we going to formally make it so things like post #9369919 don't count as bound legs then? Yes, the wiki has long suggested that they don't, but the tag has been regularly used for such things for just as long.

If we do make it so bound legs is no longer used for that, it could probably do with a tag of its own.

That's frogtie

hdk5 said in forum #425419:

BUR #56761 is pending approval.

create alias bound_wrists -> wrists_bound_together
create alias bound_arms -> arms_bound_together
create alias bound_legs -> legs_bound_together
create alias bound_ankles -> ankles_bound_together
create alias bound_thighs -> thighs_bound_together
create alias bound_knees -> knees_bound_together
create alias bound_feet -> feet_bound_together

Wikis for those tags state that they should apply to body parts tied to each other, which seems to be not immediately apparent just from the tag name. As a result, I occasionally see them misused on posts where the limbs, or a single limb, are restrained or tied to something else, like a wall, a pole, a bed frame, or other object.

what do you tag wrists bound apart post #4692683? or wrists chained to a wall post #10614675 or wrists bound to ankles post #10591305 or wrists linked to a collar with a chain post #10666126

hdk5 said in forum #425419:

I occasionally see them misused on posts where the limbs, or a single limb, are restrained or tied to something else, like a wall, a pole, a bed frame, or other object.

This seems like a tagable concept by itself and is how I would assume those tags should be used in absence of a wiki. In my opinion we should have both. the *_bound_together names are also good.

This will however require a favgroup and new BUR.

Agree. We could use something like wrists bound apart to contrast wrists bound together, etc.

We have separated legs, separated arms and separated wrists, but nobody uses them. I vote for this change so that these tags would get pushed

BUR #58575 is pending approval.

create alias separated_legs -> legs_bound_apart
create alias separated_arms -> arms_bound_apart
create alias separated_wrists -> wrists_bound_apart

yeah, I had never heard of these tags either. I'm also not sure if separated arms and separated wrists should be kept... separate.

I can't really imagine a scenario where it'd be possible for the wrists to be separated without the arms being as well, unless we want a distinction between if the arms are straight vs bent but that would just muddy things even further.

If we did fuse them would arm be the prevailing one then?

Falkern said in forum #436495:

I can't really imagine a scenario where it'd be possible for the wrists to be separated without the arms being as well

Elbows together but arms bent at an angle so the wrists are kept separate is not hard to imagine. The problem is that it's such a rare scenario that it would deserve its own tag, while these two tags at the moment are used interchangeably.

If bound_legs/wrists/etc is for restraints that keep both legs tied together without allowing the person to separate them, and separated_legs/wrists/etc is for restraints that keep both legs spread apart from one another without allowing the person to close them, which tag should be used for cases where the legs/wrists/etc are each individually bound by separate restraints, but not specifically kept either together or apart? For example if the restraints are chain/rope and have just enough slack to allow the person to either put their legs together or spread them apart if they want.

Examples:

• post #2237308
• post #11064556
• post #11258113

Seems this is another case of something currently tagged with bound_wrists/bound_ankles which won't fit anymore if we add "together" to those names since they're not connected. Do we have existing tags that cover these cases to garden them into, or should we create new tags for them?

Toks said in forum #436504:

If bound_legs/wrists/etc is for restraints that keep both legs tied together without allowing the person to separate them, and separated_legs/wrists/etc is for restraints that keep both legs spread apart from one another without allowing the person to close them, which tag should be used for cases where the legs/wrists/etc are each individually bound by separate restraints, but not specifically kept either together or apart? For example if the restraints are chain/rope and have just enough slack to allow the person to either put their legs together or spread them apart if they want.

Examples:

• post #2237308
• post #11064556
• post #11258113

Seems this is another case of something currently tagged with bound_wrists/bound_ankles which won't fit anymore if we add "together" to those names since they're not connected. Do we have existing tags that cover these cases to garden them into, or should we create new tags for them?

I was thinking that these tags could just be subtags of bound wrists et al. So bound legs with subtags legs_bound_apart and legs_bound_together , but then it kinda becomes a mess to define the various degrees of boundness: ankles together knees apart vs ankles apart knees together vs entire legs together, etc.

The status quo has the same problem of mixing a lot of different concepts anyway so we need to figure out a clear hierarchy no matter what we do. We have bound legs, bound knees, bound thighs, bound ankles and bound feet but no way to just search for characters with restrained legs no matter what.