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magcolo said in forum #417058:

I've said this a few times before but Enkidu himself is heavily polluting FSF search results. Well, the entire Fate has this problem, it's been brought up countless times, not expecting it to be solved any time soon.

Oh yes, p much every non-FGO Fate copytag has this problem. I've tried to tackle it a few times before I get distracted by another project again. Try searching the two-tags of Fate/Grand Order + literally any other Fate property if you want something to garden if I don't loop back around to it in the next few months. Have fun!

BUR #54459 has been rejected.

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rename antonio_salieri_(fgo_x_lawson_2018)_(fate) -> antonio_salieri_(lawson_2018)_(fate)
rename artoria_caster_(fgo_x_lawson_2023)_(fate) -> artoria_caster_(lawson_2023)_(fate)
rename cu_chulainn_alter_(fgo_x_lawson_2017)_(fate) -> cu_chulainn_alter_(lawson_2017)_(fate)
rename enkidu_(fgo_x_lawson_2017)_(fate) -> enkidu_(lawson_2017)_(fate)
rename enkidu_(fgo_x_lawson_2018)_(fate) -> enkidu_(lawson_2018)_(fate)
rename ereshkigal_(fgo_x_lawson_2018)_(fate) -> ereshkigal_(lawson_2018)_(fate)
rename ereshkigal_(fgo_x_lawson_2020)_(fate) -> ereshkigal_(lawson_2020)_(fate)
rename gilgamesh_(fgo_x_lawson_2017)_(fate) -> gilgamesh_(lawson_2017)_(fate)
rename gilgamesh_(fgo_x_lawson_2020)_(fate) -> gilgamesh_(lawson_2020)_(fate)
rename ishtar_(fgo_x_lawson_2018)_(fate) -> ishtar_(lawson_2018)_(fate)
rename ishtar_(fgo_x_lawson_2020)_(fate) -> ishtar_(lawson_2020)_(fate)
rename kama_(fgo_x_lawson_2023)_(fate) -> kama_(lawson_2023)_(fate)
rename karna_(fgo_x_lawson_2023)_(fate) -> karna_(lawson_2023)_(fate)
rename medb_(fgo_x_lawson_2017)_(fate) -> medb_(lawson_2017)_(fate)
rename merlin_(fgo_x_lawson_2017)_(fate) -> merlin_(lawson_2017)_(fate)
rename merlin_(fgo_x_lawson_2020)_(fate) -> merlin_(lawson_2020)_(fate)
rename miyamoto_musashi_(fgo_x_lawson_2018)_(fate) -> miyamoto_musashi_(lawson_2018)_(fate)
rename miyamoto_musashi_(fgo_x_lawson_2023)_(fate) -> miyamoto_musashi_(lawson_2023)_(fate)
rename okada_izou_(fgo_x_lawson_2023)_(fate) -> okada_izou_(lawson_2023)_(fate)
rename tomoe_gozen_(fgo_x_lawson_2018)_(fate) -> tomoe_gozen_(lawson_2018)_(fate)
rename merlin_(fgo_x_google_play)_(fate) -> merlin_(google_play)_(fate)
rename saber_(fgo_x_google_play)_(fate) -> saber_(google_play)_(fate)
rename ashiya_douman_(fgo_x_kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate) -> ashiya_douman_(kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate)
rename katsushika_hokusai_(fgo_x_kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate) -> katsushika_hokusai_(kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate)
rename merlin_(fgo_x_kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate) -> merlin_(kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate)
rename morgan_le_fay_(fgo_x_kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate) -> morgan_le_fay_(kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate)
rename nero_claudius_(fgo_x_kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate) -> nero_claudius_(kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate)
rename taigong_wang_(fgo_x_kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate) -> taigong_wang_(kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate)
rename arjuna_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> arjuna_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename elizabeth_bathory_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> elizabeth_bathory_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename enkidu_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> enkidu_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename james_moriarty_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> james_moriarty_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename jeanne_d'arc_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> jeanne_d'arc_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename karna_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> karna_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename miyamoto_musashi_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> miyamoto_musashi_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename yan_qing_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> yan_qing_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename alexander_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> alexander_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)
rename jeanne_d'arc_alter_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> jeanne_d'arc_alter_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)
rename mandricardo_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> mandricardo_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)
rename marie_antoinette_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> marie_antoinette_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)
rename merlin_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> merlin_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)
rename red_hare_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> red_hare_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)
rename saber_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> saber_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)

forum #389054
Since there isn't a particular reason for this format.

I think the format of these tags can be simplified. The current format is wordy, hard to read and makes the tag longer. And it's unnecessary. Almost every other collaboration tag only use (collaboration) as the qualifier, despite technically they can all be named (copyright x collaboration). FGO is the only one going by this "copyright x collaboration" format. Take Lawson for example, most tags are *_(lawson)*, not *_(copyright_x_lawson)*.

Also, all existing Fate Lawson tags are FGO tags. If someone is worried about future FSN x Lawson, FE x Lawson tags etc., my opinion is that no need to worry before that becomes a thing. Re-qualifying a tag is not difficult, and we will only need to qualify confronting tags, e.g. a character appearing in both collaborations. Otherwise, there's no difference if both FGO x Lawson and FSN x Lawson characters use the (lawson) qualifier.

Updated by magcolo

BUR #54461 has been approved by @evazion.

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rename antonio_salieri_(fgo_x_lawson_2018)_(fate) -> antonio_salieri_(lawson)_(fate)
rename artoria_caster_(fgo_x_lawson_2023)_(fate) -> artoria_caster_(lawson)_(fate)
rename cu_chulainn_alter_(fgo_x_lawson_2017)_(fate) -> cu_chulainn_alter_(lawson)_(fate)
rename enkidu_(fgo_x_lawson_2017)_(fate) -> enkidu_(lawson_2017)_(fate)
rename enkidu_(fgo_x_lawson_2018)_(fate) -> enkidu_(lawson_2018)_(fate)
rename ereshkigal_(fgo_x_lawson_2018)_(fate) -> ereshkigal_(lawson_2018)_(fate)
rename ereshkigal_(fgo_x_lawson_2020)_(fate) -> ereshkigal_(lawson_2020)_(fate)
rename gilgamesh_(fgo_x_lawson_2017)_(fate) -> gilgamesh_(lawson_2017)_(fate)
rename gilgamesh_(fgo_x_lawson_2020)_(fate) -> gilgamesh_(lawson_2020)_(fate)
rename ishtar_(fgo_x_lawson_2018)_(fate) -> ishtar_(lawson_2018)_(fate)
rename ishtar_(fgo_x_lawson_2020)_(fate) -> ishtar_(lawson_2020)_(fate)
rename kama_(fgo_x_lawson_2023)_(fate) -> kama_(lawson)_(fate)
rename karna_(fgo_x_lawson_2023)_(fate) -> karna_(lawson)_(fate)
rename medb_(fgo_x_lawson_2017)_(fate) -> medb_(lawson)_(fate)
rename merlin_(fgo_x_lawson_2017)_(fate) -> merlin_(lawson_2017)_(fate)
rename merlin_(fgo_x_lawson_2020)_(fate) -> merlin_(lawson_2020)_(fate)
rename miyamoto_musashi_(fgo_x_lawson_2018)_(fate) -> miyamoto_musashi_(lawson_2018)_(fate)
rename miyamoto_musashi_(fgo_x_lawson_2023)_(fate) -> miyamoto_musashi_(lawson_2023)_(fate)
rename okada_izou_(fgo_x_lawson_2023)_(fate) -> okada_izou_(lawson)_(fate)
rename tomoe_gozen_(fgo_x_lawson_2018)_(fate) -> tomoe_gozen_(lawson)_(fate)
rename merlin_(fgo_x_google_play)_(fate) -> merlin_(google_play)_(fate)
rename saber_(fgo_x_google_play)_(fate) -> saber_(google_play)_(fate)
rename ashiya_douman_(fgo_x_kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate) -> ashiya_douman_(kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate)
rename katsushika_hokusai_(fgo_x_kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate) -> katsushika_hokusai_(kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate)
rename merlin_(fgo_x_kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate) -> merlin_(kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate)
rename morgan_le_fay_(fgo_x_kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate) -> morgan_le_fay_(kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate)
rename nero_claudius_(fgo_x_kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate) -> nero_claudius_(kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate)
rename taigong_wang_(fgo_x_kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate) -> taigong_wang_(kyoto_rikyuen)_(fate)
rename arjuna_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> arjuna_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename elizabeth_bathory_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> elizabeth_bathory_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename enkidu_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> enkidu_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename james_moriarty_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> james_moriarty_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename jeanne_d'arc_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> jeanne_d'arc_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename karna_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> karna_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename miyamoto_musashi_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> miyamoto_musashi_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename yan_qing_(fgo_x_pasela_resorts)_(fate) -> yan_qing_(pasela_resorts)_(fate)
rename alexander_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> alexander_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)
rename jeanne_d'arc_alter_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> jeanne_d'arc_alter_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)
rename mandricardo_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> mandricardo_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)
rename marie_antoinette_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> marie_antoinette_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)
rename merlin_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> merlin_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)
rename red_hare_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> red_hare_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)
rename saber_(fgo_x_takarazuka_kinen)_(fate) -> saber_(takarazuka_kinen)_(fate)

I also think adding year qualifiers to every character is overkill. Only repeated characters need year qualifiers. Every time I look at these tags they give me the feeling of confusion that every character has multiple outfits, even when I know they don't. If we only add year qualifier to repeated characters, then it's very straightforward who has multiple outfits. Fate costume tags and character wikis are already puzzling enough, no need to overcomplicate things more.

magcolo said in forum #417058:

I've said this a few times before but Enkidu himself is heavily polluting FSF search results. Well, the entire Fate has this problem, it's been brought up countless times, not expecting it to be solved any time soon.

When a character goes on to appear in multiple games, we should stop tagging which game they originated in unless it's a specific reference to that game. See how Touhou characters aren't tagged according to which game they first appeared in.

Hassan of Serenity and Suzuka Gozen are especially bad about this because they add 2-3 extra copytags to every post they appear in due to long implication chains (e.g. Fate/Extra CCC Fox Tail -> Fate/Extra CCC -> Fate/Extra -> Fate).

BUR #54528 has been approved by @evazion.

rename cao_cao_(fetc) -> cao_cao_(fate/embrace_the_chaos)
rename liu_bei_(fetc) -> liu_bei_(fate/embrace_the_chaos)

what kinda qualifier is this

also I think there are some other mistagged posts hiding under fate/empire_of_dirt status:banned and i can't do anything abt it :( i would check shuten_douji_(fate) fate/empire_of_dirt (potentially their version of ushi gozen) / jeanne_d'arc_(fate) fate/empire_of_dirt (probably the charles VII Berserker pseudo-servant, either way jeanne_d'arc_(ruler)_(fate) fate/empire_of_dirt is almost certainly wrong)

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