Blue Archive's Justina Followers

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Currently, Justina Follower (blue archive) is basically useless. It's serving double duty as a tag for the enemy type (post #4993907), and as an outfit tag for all of the people wearing their uniform. In particular, 321 of the 454 posts are just Sakurako (blue archive), who briefly dons the outfit canonically. Only around 10 of the remaining 133 posts actually feature the enemy, otherwise just being cosplay but most without being tagged cosplay. This makes actually finding the handful of Justina Followers extremely difficult. Even assuming they were all tagged correctly, it would still at minimum be a three tag search (justina_follower_(blue_archive) -sakurako_(blue_archive) -cosplay) just to find these characters.

Should the outfit get its own tag?

I'm not in favor of doing that because Sakurako is not cosplaying. She's wearing the Saint Justina Council uniform that she dug out of storage. Tagging everyone else as cosplay is fine, but Sakurako is not cosplaying. I also don't really agree with the idea that this one enemy could ever hit 4 digits, or that we should plan our tagging around something like that happening.

The fact is that right now actual Justina enemies make up approximately 2% of their own tag and it's silly that even two tags should be needed to actually find them and not some other character being gangbanged while wearing their outfit. This is the exact situation we've created general outfit tags for in the past.

Edit: Alternatively, Sakurako could just get her own tag for the outfit (Sakurako (saint justina) (blue archive)?) and we could stop tagging her with justina follower (blue archive), but that still leaves around 120 cases of cosplay forcing a two tag search for a niche group of enemies.

Updated by blindVigil

Provence said:

Sounds to me like

sakurako_(justyna_uniform)_(blue_archive) + official_alternate_costume
As for the otherr characters, it would be sakurako_(justyna_uniform)_(blue_archive)_(cosplay). That way all named characters would be completely detached from that enemy type.

We don't make cosplay tags for specific outfits except in extenuating circumstances, so it would just be sakurako (blue archive) (cosplay), but I guess that works. It feels a bit like one problem is just being pushed somewhere else, but it wouldn't really be inaccurate to say the outfit is only as popular as it is because Sakurako wore it one time in the story, anyway.

I mean in that Justina Followers having too many cosplay posts is being passed onto Sakurako having a bunch of cosplay posts, but it won't really flood her tag and probably won't become a problem for her, so it works out. If it does become a problem, we can do something about it then.

The Justina Uniform has too many cosplay posts because it's a meme outfit, and we can't do much about that.

Sakurako appears to currently have 2 posts of people cosplaying her standard outfit, post #6240813 and post #6721231 (there's also post #6919633, which appears to be an outfit inspired by Sakurako's that AFAIK she has not worn.)

If anyone wants to find these specifically after Justina outfits are moved to her cosplay tag, a multi-tag search should be easier than trying to find Justina enemies with a multi-tag search is right now.
Right now sakurako_(blue_archive)_(cosplay) -leotard works, except in the hypothetical case in which someone later draws a picture where someone is cosplaying in Sakurako's standard outfit alongside someone else wearing a leotard. Potentially something like sakurako_(blue_archive)_(cosplay) habit could also work with a bit of tag cleanup.

(It's on her wiki page right now, but should Sakurako's standard outfit really be called a habit? In either case the habit tag should definitely be nuked off any Justina Uniform posts that have it, I think.)

7HS said:

The Justina Uniform has too many cosplay posts because it's a meme outfit, and we can't do much about that.

Sakurako appears to currently have 2 posts of people cosplaying her standard outfit, post #6240813 and post #6721231 (there's also post #6919633, which appears to be an outfit inspired by Sakurako's that AFAIK she has not worn.)

If anyone wants to find these specifically after Justina outfits are moved to her cosplay tag, a multi-tag search should be easier than trying to find Justina enemies with a multi-tag search is right now.
Right now sakurako_(blue_archive)_(cosplay) -leotard works, except in the hypothetical case in which someone later draws a picture where someone is cosplaying in Sakurako's standard outfit alongside someone else wearing a leotard. Potentially something like sakurako_(blue_archive)_(cosplay) habit could also work with a bit of tag cleanup.

This problem is easily solved by these tags:

Provence said:

sakurako_(justyna_uniform)_(blue_archive) + official_alternate_costume

If it's not given a uniform tag, Sakurako's wearing of the outfit should at least get its own character tag. There's certainly enough examples of it.

7HS said:

(It's on her wiki page right now, but should Sakurako's standard outfit really be called a habit? In either case the habit tag should definitely be nuked off any Justina Uniform posts that have it, I think.)

Probably a consequence of habit being adjacent to nun tag-wise, as while a religious habit can entail many things, folks are probably just using it to tag nuns that aren't nun-like (at least, that's the vibe searching habit -nun gives me).

BUR #44201 is pending approval.

mass update justina_follower_(blue_archive) sakurako_(blue_archive) solo -> char:sakurako_(justina_uniform)_(blue_archive) -justina_follower_(blue_archive) -cosplay -justina_follower_(blue_archive)_(cosplay)
create implication sakurako_(justina_uniform)_(blue_archive) -> sakurako_(blue_archive)
mass update mari_(blue_archive) justina_follower_(blue_archive) solo -cosplay -> justina_follower_(blue_archive)_(cosplay)
create implication swimsuit_saint_(ar)_(blue_archive) -> justina_follower_(blue_archive)
create implication swimsuit_saint_(ft)_(blue_archive) -> justina_follower_(blue_archive)

I just encountered this issue after I started reading Blue Archive and wanted to find porn of this character. The current situation is pretty insane. Let's remove the bulk of this. Sakurano's outfit is canon, so it should be its own subtag. There's also a lot of untagged cosplay posts, especially from Mari.

blindVigil said:

I hate mass updates because it's hard for me to tell what they're actually doing, but that second one is nuking Justina follower (Blue Archive) correct?

The second one is basically proposing:

I guess I'll put some dummy post IDs in there to make it clearer.

I also just realized we have Swimsuit Saint (Ar) (Blue Archive) and Swimsuit Saint (Ft) (Blue Archive) so I'll add those to the BUR as well.

nonamethanks said:

The second one is basically proposing:

I guess I'll put some dummy post IDs in there to make it clearer.

I read the line about the NPC tag but was so focused on working out the BUR's intended result I completely phased it out of my mind, oops.

At any rate, I would I prefer Sakurako get her own tag for the outfit, if these proposals are mutually exclusive.

I also just realized we have Swimsuit Saint (Ar) (Blue Archive) and Swimsuit Saint (Ft) (Blue Archive) so I'll add those to the BUR as well.

I made those, since we were making tags for all the other enemy variants, but apparently forgot to give them wikis. I didn't make tags for the other Justina members because this one is the only one anyone draws or recognizes. It's technically the (sr) variant, but most people just use it as the default generic member because it's the one with a character portrait.

Updated by blindVigil

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