Unalias faux_greek -> ranguage (previously Alias ranguage -> bad_grammar)

BUR #4842 has been rejected.

create alias engrish_text -> bad_english_grammar
create alias ranguage -> bad_grammar

More intuitive tag naming scheme.

Sometimes the issues are spelling and not grammar, though.

kittey said:

Sometimes the issues are spelling and not grammar, though.

Would bad english text be more suitable?

I've always heard it referred to as engrish. It's even got its own wikipedia page. I just don't see the need for this change.

I agree with the latter alias. Albeit first making the adjustment that kittey pointed out and changing it to poor_language or broken_language. Considering the top search result for 'ranguage' is a tv tropes article it's more of an esoteric term and not self-evident enough. I'd go as far as saying that it's somewhat discriminatory but that's beyond the case here. Another issue however is the fact that it's an umbrella tag in which the name describes just one case of poor language aptitude (japanese -> english).

Engrish is fine as it's a widespread term.

While we're here, could we dealias faux greek from ranguage? It sets the precedent that stuff like font swaps, i.e. post #1083875 and post #625790, count under ranguage despite the fact that it isn't ranguage at all, but rather just faux text.

bad_english_grammar is kinda long imo, I think bad_english would be fine.

I prefer keeping "engrish" for such instances but I'm more amenable to changing "ranguage" since the Gratuitous Language trope isn't exclusive to Japanese characters trying their diction on English, rather it is applicable to any language and the term "ranguage" still implies "engrish".

I have always disliked 'Engrish' etc., certainly not from vile political correctness, but because it is condescending and impolite. 'Ranguage' is not as bad, but still...

After all, these people are doing their best and most people shall make mistakes in a foreign language. And no-one would point out another person's grammatical mistakes or misspeakings in real life.

How about something like 'Different English' as a non-judgemental indication things are awry ? With an explanation in its wiki that this applies when the artists have, understandably, made minor errors.

Claverhouse said:
How about something like 'Different English' as a non-judgemental indication things are awry ? With an explanation in its wiki that this applies when the artists have, understandably, made minor errors.

No, that's just stupid. If it's wrong it's wrong.

Damian0358 said:

While we're here, could we dealias faux greek from ranguage? It sets the precedent that stuff like font swaps, i.e. post #1083875 and post #625790, count under ranguage despite the fact that it isn't ranguage at all, but rather just faux text.

Seconding this.

BUR #4889 has been approved by @evazion.

remove alias faux_greek -> ranguage
remove alias faux_finnish -> ranguage

Stated above

Damian0358 said:

despite the fact that it isn't ranguage at all, but rather just faux text.

It doesn't help that these faux tags don't have wikis. Any chance somebody could remedy that? I'd do it myself, but this is the first I've heard of them.

The bulk update request #4842 (forum #181620) has been rejected by @Username_Hidden.

Bump.

Should we...

remove alias nihawngo -> ranguage

remove alias faux_finnish -> ranguage

remove alias gelman -> ranguage

remove alias ratin -> ranguage

remove alias flench -> ranguage

...as well?

Travley said:

Bump.

Should we...

remove alias nihawngo -> ranguage

remove alias faux_finnish -> ranguage

remove alias gelman -> ranguage

remove alias ratin -> ranguage

remove alias flench -> ranguage

...as well?

No, the other follow the engrish format.
The faux finnish alias should be removed though.

If anything faux_finnish and faux_greek should be aliased to faux text. But even that tag is a catch all for faux_(language here) and has not seen much use.

The bulk update request #4889 (forum #181978) has been approved by @evazion.