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blindVigil said in comment #2618442:

They were actually doing fine, at least as far as BA is concerned, until they hired former EA CEO Mr. "Charge real money to reload your gun"

Only after Nexon hired him did BA suddenly start making a lot of bad turns

>Implying Nexon doesn't do this shit all the time with their IP

Anyone who honestly tries to act like this never would have happened if Söderlund never came on needs to lay off the corporate farts. Pre-release people were dreading what kind of MTX hell BA would be purely because it was a Nexon game. Also remember that in the very early days before global you needed 300 pulls to spark. That Nexon had waited 5 years before taking the mask off and altering the deal is honestly a surprising display of restraint from them.

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HyphenSam said in comment #2618200:

Context: Blue Archive used to have a 200-pull spark system, but it is now changed to a Hoyo-style 50/50 pity system.

100 pulls now gives you a 50% chance to get the featured 3-star character. If you lose the 50/50, you are guaranteed the featured character at 200 pulls.
The issue is that pity resets to 0 once you get any of the featured characters from any other banner. So if you got the student at 190 pulls, you cannot use the 190 pulls to spark another character because it gets set to 0. This change is only good for pulling a single character from a banner, but it is very bad if you want to pull multiple characters in a banner.

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I will have utmost respect to the BA community if they keep showing spine here instead of reverting to total gooners after one week again. Which is happening already. Nevermind.

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HyphenSam said in comment #2618200:

Context: Blue Archive used to have a 200-pull spark system, but it is now changed to a Hoyo-style 50/50 pity system.

100 pulls now gives you a 50% chance to get the featured 3-star character. If you lose the 50/50, you are guaranteed the featured character at 200 pulls.
The issue is that pity resets to 0 once you get any of the featured characters from any other banner. So if you got the student at 190 pulls, you cannot use the 190 pulls to spark another character because it gets set to 0. This change is only good for pulling a single character from a banner, but it is very bad if you want to pull multiple characters in a banner.

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as a genshin player i don't see the issue

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HyphenSam said in comment #2618200:

Context: Blue Archive used to have a 200-pull spark system, but it is now changed to a Hoyo-style 50/50 pity system.

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Oh, fucking lovely. Just when I started to get back into the game again.

I remember when Umamusume's global server first opened, I wished its gacha was more like BA's. They've since raised its regular Carat (Pyroxene) rewards, and given you the ability to grind for character's Star Pieces (Eleph). All they have to do now is merge more banners together so they have a shared pity system and we'll have gone full-circle.

How the tables turn.

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HyphenSam said in comment #2618200:

Context: Blue Archive used to have a 200-pull spark system, but it is now changed to a Hoyo-style 50/50 pity system.

100 pulls now gives you a 50% chance to get the featured 3-star character. If you lose the 50/50, you are guaranteed the featured character at 200 pulls.
The issue is that pity resets to 0 once you get any of the featured characters from any other banner. So if you got the student at 190 pulls, you cannot use the 190 pulls to spark another character because it gets set to 0. This change is only good for pulling a single character from a banner, but it is very bad if you want to pull multiple characters in a banner.

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Ouch, that is just plain disgusting. Makes me glad that at least SD Gundam G Gen Eternal has a relatively forgiving gacha system (guaranteed a UR unit/supporter at 100 rolls for new banners, with the ability to manually select one of the featured units for 200 points or the supporter for 300).

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So from what I understand now, if you have a shitty luck, guess what they are giving you more pulls and if you ran of those pulls you can still buy more pulls. The thing I liked about Blue Archive is that it allows you to plan your resources for the next banners you wanted to pull rather than gambling your way through, this new system really encourage gambling addiction. They aren't just being greedy, the wanted to monetized from others' greed as well.

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Lunatic6 said in comment #2618451:

So from what I understand now, if you have a shitty luck, guess what they are giving you more pulls and if you ran of those pulls you can still buy more pulls. The thing I liked about Blue Archive is that it allows you to plan your resources for the next banners you wanted to pull rather than gambling your way through, this new system really encourage gambling addiction. They aren't just being greedy, the wanted to monetized from others' greed as well.

Isn't the new system better mathmatically speaking, at least for F2P?
Does it also apply to whales?

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Western players might be familiar with a reskinned version called President, which itself was adapted from Daifugou or the equivalent Chinese card games. There's also some brand name variants like The Great Dalmuti and Dilbert's Corporate Shuffle.

(Swedish used to have a... uh... not-so-politically-correct name for it too.)

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