Co250 said: wait what? persona has spin-off fighting game? What? When? How? Where???
Copy and Pasting from an earlier post of mine
To be specific, it's a P3/P4 Cross Over fighting game that is set 2 Months after the end of P4. It's being developed by Arc System Works (the people who made Guilty Gear and BlazBlue), it will have a story mode which is being written by the writers of P4. Right now all the screen shots are of an early build so the cast list and amount of playable characters is not definite.
So far confirmed characters are, Yosuke, Yukiko, Yuu/Souji/P4 MC (whatever you wanna call him) Chie, Kanji and Agis.
They have also confirmed P4 will be ported to the Playstation Vita and will have new content, a new area to visit, new animated cutscenes (unlike P3P all animated cutscenes and models are included) new events that occur during the story (such as a Halloween Party at Junes)new costumes to have characters wear, new gameplay elements and there's a new character named Marie.
Right now her roll is unknown, but she seems to be more important then a simple quest character so she could either be a new S.Link OR a potential new party member.
AzAx said: Though it's probably too early to know something like that, what I'm wondering if it's gonna have a release out of Japan...
I'm certain that it will. Persona is a popular franchise, and Arc Systems is a highly regarded developer. Atlus USA wouldn't miss the opportunity to market this.
Atlus is very good about doing releases in the West. Can you name the last time a Shin Megami Tensei game DIDN'T make it over to the west? Probably a game on the Sega Saturn.
Let's face it, when the West is getting Fate/Extra and Love Plus 3D, the sky's the limit for what we could get.
Except Layton vs. Ace Attorney, because Capcom is full of morons.
You shouldn't be asking when the last time an SMT game wasn't released in the west, it should be more that when's the last time a fighting game series outside of the obviously major ones sold well? And even at that, this is a 2D sprite-based fighting game based on a relatively obscure JRPG released on the PS2 three years after the Xbox 360 launched.
The closest game to this will be the last Blazblue game, and that sold 230,000 outside of Japan to this very date. Something terrible like Just Dance 2 on the Wii, never released in Japan, sold 238,000 in the first week alone and has now sold over 8 million in less than a year. That's the kind of thing that makes Japanese companies that make good yet obscure games scared of releasing them in the west.
tl;dr Maybe if they do it as a PSN/XBLA release, but otherwise it seems too niche - though Atlus ARE good at niche, I admit.
Also, I can't seem to find any info on New Love Plus/Love Plus 3D getting released in America. Anyone have a source? That'd make it more tempting to get a 3DS, though I'd have to get an American one since they're not gonna release it in Europe, just like Fate/Extra isn't getting released here - but at least the PSP is region free.
Except neither the Persona nor BlazBlue are obscure in the gaming market. They have a definite market.
Yes, and so do Ace Attorney and Layton, in fact each of the Layton games have sold millions each, not even including Japanese sales. But when you cross over two already somewhat niche titles (Ace Attorney being a much lower seller, only slightly higher than BBCS), you actually shrink the market even more rather than expanding it and that seems to be what caused Capcom to be resistant to releasing their crossover title in the west.
Blazblue sold a mere 20,000 in the whole world outside of Japan and North America, bearing in mind that in Europe alone there are over 700,000,000 people. That's absolutely horrendous. It got 210,000 from North America, but that still means that only 1 in 2500 North Americans bought it, or 0.04% of the population; less than a twentieth of a percent. That's pretty damn obscure, so while I certainly hope this gets released, people are under an enormous illusion if they think the games it's spinning off from are anything other than obscure, niche titles.
Fragbet85 said: You forgot Black Rock Shooter. And since when was Love Plus localized? I've never heard of that.
Actually, I heard it from a rather knowledgeable clerk at Gamestop. [Pauseforlaughter] A reliable source, I know, but I did some looking. All I found was this quote:
"We are doing research right now. We have just released it on the Japanese market but we are considering releasing it overseas," says Okumura
So I was a bit mistaken in saying it was announced to be localized, but my point still stands: We're getting some obscure stuff over here (and I'm not complaining).
But Persona, while hardly mainstream, is far from obscure.
Edit: Teclo, you really shouldn't compare how many people bought a game to the entire population of North America. You should compare sales expectations to actual sales. That makes much more sense.
And let's not bring Capcom into this. They have lost their collective minds recently.
Teclo said: Blazblue sold a mere 20,000 in the whole world outside of Japan and North America, bearing in mind that in Europe alone there are over 700,000,000 people. That's absolutely horrendous. It got 210,000 from North America, but that still means that only 1 in 2500 North Americans bought it, or 0.04% of the population; less than a twentieth of a percent. That's pretty damn obscure, so while I certainly hope this gets released, people are under an enormous illusion if they think the games it's spinning off from are anything other than obscure, niche titles.
Ok stop. Right now. Do you realize what you're saying? Those statistics are all wrong because you just made the assumption that the entire population of Europe and America are gamers.
That is not how niche marketing works. Niche marketing is about targeting a specific group and making a profit out of it.
And even then these games aren't in that market. Persona belongs to a JRPG market which is quite lucrative. And no it is not obscure at all. 2d fighters? Also just as lucrative. Just in terms of markeing, Persona is a very popular JRPG franchise and Arc Systems have an image of high quality fighting games. The chances of it attracting the hype are very high. It makes localization very likely.
