New pool: Danbooru Cookbook

It was suggested that a new pool should be created for images that give a food/drink recipe.
Some searching showed that tags or tag combinations either don't hit all the relevant items (e.g. how_to food) or get some irrelevant results (e.g. recipe also includes images that show a recipe book, but the text on it is not readable.)

Suggested pool description:

A collection for images that contain usable instructions how to make a dish or beverage.
To qualify for this pool, the recipe should be clearly readable (with or without step by step instructions), and it must be possible to create the dish/beverage in real life by following the recipe. Images with the recipe tag do not necessarily qualify. (e.g. post #1307384 doesn't, because you can't actually use the image as instructions for how to make the dish.)
Good example images: post #995043, post #572762.

Comments, other suggestions for pool name, etc?

I'd be in favor of it or something like it. Illustrated how-tos and advice you can use in the real world (like that DBZ self-defense set or the Eientei series that gives health and wellness tips) are always interesting to me and the realm is cooking is no exception. I was actually thinking about the scarcity of other delicious things in the most obvious tags (recipe or how_to) the other day after I stumbled back across post #1373029 and wanted to see if i could find any other ideas.

Do you think there are enough recipes to merit it, though? (Maybe I should just seek some out and upload them myself so the translators can tell me how to make them, harhar.)

We have pools with relatively few entries as well. I suspect that there may be more than we think though-not all of the posts that HAVE recipes in them are not always labeled as how-tos, or the uploaders/taggers may have been ignorant of the tag. I would hope that this would also help to inspire others to upload more of these types of images.

Odds are, I bet there may be a fair few buried within the "food" tag that we just haven't noticed or seen translated. Older examples still occasionally get added to more recent pools as they are found. I don't see why this would be any different.

Besides, education has always been one of the more entertaining aspects of the Danbooru experience.

Don't see why this needs to be a pool, recipe/recipe_(object) is enough to separate the two. It works fine for photo.

Do you think there are enough recipes to merit it, though? (Maybe I should just seek some out and upload them myself so the translators can tell me how to make them, harhar.)

My quick search turned up only a few, but I'm sure that there are plenty that can't easily be found with a tag search (which is, after all, the main reason the pool was suggested).

A pool isn't necessary, the recipe tag is enough.

Actually, no. It seems that the recipe tag is also used for images that have cooking in progress, but are not actually how-tos. Or rather, show a cookbook without showing the recipe.

Oh come on, then let it be how_to recipe or how_to cooking. We don't need a pool for that. Just how many images would fit there anyway? Ten? Fifteen?

MagicalAsparagus said:

Oh come on, then let it be how_to recipe or how_to cooking. We don't need a pool for that. Just how many images would fit there anyway? Ten? Fifteen?

Neither of those searches hit even all the relevant images I know of, so I'm pretty sure there are several others I haven't seen yet simply because there's no good way to reliably search for them.

Byakugan01 said:

Actually, no. It seems that the recipe tag is also used for images that have cooking in progress, but are not actually how-tos. Or rather, show a cookbook without showing the recipe.

As Log said, use two tags: recipe and recipe_(object). What's the issue with that?

Bicorn said:

Neither of those searches hit even all the relevant images I know of, so I'm pretty sure there are several others I haven't seen yet simply because there's no good way to reliably search for them.

Isn't that just because they haven't had those tags added to them yet?

Well, I don't think a proliferation of <something>_(object) tags is a good idea to begin with. I think new users just find them confusing.
Besides, if the recipe_(object) tag were to be created, many existing images would need to be re-tagged, and folks who didn't know about the new tag would continue tagging images that were supposed to have it with recipe, adding to the mess.

Bicorn said:

Well, I don't think a proliferation of <something>_(object) tags is a good idea to begin with. I think new users just find them confusing.

We have a number of *_(object) tags, and they're an established tagging practice. I don't personally find them confusing at all. I think it would be more confusing to make this a pool when there's no reason to.

Bicorn said:

Besides, if the recipe_(object) tag were to be created, many existing images would need to be re-tagged, and folks who didn't know about the new tag would continue tagging images that were supposed to have it with recipe, adding to the mess.

The recipe tag has a total of 18 posts, which is very few.

Toks said:

I think it would be more confusing to make this a pool when there's no reason to.

Why would creating a new tag be better than creating a new pool, then?

Bicorn said:

Why would creating a new tag be better than creating a new pool, then?

Tags are used for visually identifiable, discrete components of an image. Pools are more for series of related images. Informally, the latter is used also for semi-subjective qualities and for things that are hard to nail down to a consistent set of tags, but both uses are discouraged, as the many threads dedicated to purging pools indicate.

A recipe is easy to identify in an image. Either it has one or it doesn't.

Byakugan01 said:

Actually, no. It seems that the recipe tag is also used for images that have cooking in progress, but are not actually how-tos. Or rather, show a cookbook without showing the recipe.

I don't see much value in distinguishing the two unless the tag gets far better populated.

Toks said:

The recipe tag has a total of 18 posts, which is very few.

Even worse than that, when I checked the tag it had 5 posts, 3 of which would fall under _(object) and 2 being actual recipes.

BCI_Temp said:

I don't see much value in distinguishing the two unless the tag gets far better populated.

This is dumb. We have wikis to redirect people to the opposing tags. If we know that there's two separate, both distinct and visually distinct, concepts that fall under the name why would we actively not sort them apart?