New tag: void_face

BUR #57923 is pending approval.

mass update favgroup:54349 -> void_face

Characters like Taokaka, Black Mage, Hyness, Raven Team Leader, or jawas- All of them possess the characteristic of undefined heads. I've made favgroup #54349 as a start for tagging characters fulfilling the criteria (Currently at 1,416 posts).

Other characters placed in this favgroup- Kaka Kittens, Suzukaka, Totokaka, Torakaka, Chachakaka, Orko.

Characters being considered- Magolor, Shadow (Kingdom Hearts), Veigar, Simirror.

Not gonna lie, pretty insane that we didn't have a tag for this until today.

How do we define the threshold between this and eyes_in_shadow, especially for characters like taokaka?

nonamethanks said in forum #436223:

Not gonna lie, pretty insane that we didn't have a tag for this until today.

How do we define the threshold between this and eyes_in_shadow, especially for characters like taokaka?

Ah. I have never seen this tag until today.

It looks like eyes in shadow and face in shadow overlap very hard with this new tag proposal. However, I believe a distinguishing trait might be that void face is an unmodified state of an established character. Which, potentially disqualifies Hyness? The present identifiers for Hyness include the black void eyes/face, but... My best concrete argument is that the example posts for the other two seem to give wiggle room for head shapes and distinguishable facial structure.

baconmeh2 said in forum #433910:

Characters being considered- Magolor, Shadow (Kingdom Hearts), Veigar, Simirror.

Not familiar with the Kingdom Hearts guy or Veigar, but I am an occasional Kirby uploader, so my first thought was "oh, so like Magolor?" upon seeing this BUR.

Needless to say: I'd be fine putting Magolor and Simirror in the tag. They have about the same amount of detail as the Black Mage (Final Fantasy) (s? I don't generally touch FF...) which qualify, so why not them too?

Should this apply to Shy Guy? Dimentio? The Heartless (kingdom hearts)/Shadow (Kingdom Hearts)? Be careful with that last one, look at post #8164074 for example and compare with post #8158723.

I know you mentioned the heartless in OP but I feel like it's worth nailing down.

PersonalFowl said in forum #436287:

Should this apply to Shy Guy? Dimentio? The Heartless (kingdom hearts)/Shadow (Kingdom Hearts)? Be careful with that last one, look at post #8164074 for example and compare with post #8158723.

I know you mentioned the heartless in OP but I feel like it's worth nailing down.

Shy Guy- no, that is explicitly a mask.
Dimention- ditto.
Heartless- already for consideration, but yes valid reasons to be on the fence.

A mask with hollow things... We already tag that in Knight (Hollow Knight), no?

Ah, I did not know hollow eyes existed. Those are completely different concepts. Thanks!

I love this kind of appearance; thank you for making the tag.

I noticed all the characters mentioned so far have a face. My first thought upon reading void face is characters with a head but no facial features at all:

Tyrael

Magicka wizard

Paradox (Deadlock)

Character whose alternate head is a snow globe but their default outfit has eyes

Nazgul

• asset #48059210: ethereal (warcraft)
• asset #48059214: Probably doesn't count because the black hole face looks too much like a giant eye
• asset #48059211: Doesn't count: Head not human-like enough to have a face in the first place

Do characters with a void for a head but no face count? E.g. their head or face is just some abstract galaxy. Probably don't want to lump in characters like Dante (Limbus Company) (entire head is a clock, not a helmet or mask, but it can feel like their face because it's permanently on fire)

Or is having a face a hard requirement? Because I'm not sure how to search for an empty hood look either. Unless that's just hole in face.