category textless_cover_page -> meta

BUR #57597 is pending approval.

category textless_cover_page -> meta

Splitting from topic #35537.

This tag was called cover image before topic #35253, but it was always a problem tag - I remember using this tag wrong when I first joined the site almost a decade ago.

Due to its confusing former name, it's filled with normal cover pages, because people confused it with cover page.

cover_page textless_cover_page has 1k out of 4k posts, so it's not clear whether this tag should be mass updated to cover page textless_version & aliased to textless version, or whether it should be mutually exclusive with cover page and imply textless version.

Unlike the cover tags discussed in topic #35537, this tag is intuitively a tag based entirely on meta knowledge: you have to know that there's a cover with text, and that this is its textless variant, because otherwise there's almost never any suggestion that what's found in this tag is a cover page.

BUR #57598 is pending approval.

mass update textless_cover_page -> -cover_page

BUR to remove cover page from it. Will need to be gardened first to swap the tags in wrongly tagged posts.

BUR #57599 is pending approval.

mass update textless_cover_page -> cover_page

BUR to instead mass add the tag to it, reverse of the second BUR. This will need to be periodically gardened to readd it, since if we turn it into a meta tag it wont be able to imply cover page.

nonamethanks said in forum #432637:

BUR #57597 is pending approval.

category textless_cover_page -> meta

I figured the proposal to make it implicate textless would happen at some point, but honestly I hate that we've decided that the marked up version of the image which even frequently cropped (post #11038007) or an extraction (post #3162588) of an image is the "complete" version. While I didn't say anything with the change of name of cover image, but I vastly preferred that name because it didn't make it as if it was the derivative image when the cover page version is honestly the real derivative. Now making it textless cover page meta is just cementing that the unaltered image is nothing but a derivative of the "original" edited texted up cover page.

Textless is deprecated, BUR #57597 should be changed to textless version.

WRS said in forum #432673:

Textless is deprecated, BUR #57597 should be changed to textless version.

Oh right, it won't even let me submit an implication while it's in general. I'll do it after then.

GreyOmega said in forum #432665:

The priority of text versions over textless versions has been the case for quite a few years already, but the problem is that you cannot tell a post is a textless cover without already knowing about the existence of the cover. See forum #432684 for example, another user complaining that they can't figure out that post #11120914 is a clean cover from tags alone.

For extractions, I would argue the parent of post #3162588 does not qualify for textless cover page nor textless version, because it's a different variant. textless cover page should be for exactly the same image as the published cover, but without all the text details.