Danbooru

Colored things & Tagging

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Checking to see if a post has been tagged for hair, eyes, and nail colors is a pain currently. In the tags, the colors come first, which means you have to search for the color first instead of what it's describing. In a full list of tags this can be very annoying, even more so when there are multiple characters (e.g. post #2387957 ). This also applies to hair length, which adds more tags the longer the hair is.

Instead of having the tags be color_hair, why not hair_(color)? This could also be helpful to new taggers, as you can see all the possible hair color tags by typing in "hair_(".

This is a secondary point, but it could be useful too. Instead of long_hair, very_long_hair, etc., how about hair_length_(length)?

very_short_hair -> hair_length_(very_short)
short_hair -> hair_length_(short)
medium_hair -> hair_length_(medium)
long_hair -> hair_length_(long)
very_long_hair -> hair_length_(very_long)
absurdly_long_hair -> hair_length_(absurd)

It may look a little rediculous and cumbersome to type, but I don't think it looks as bad when you list them out. Again, this makes it a lot easier to search.

hair_length_(very_short)
hair_length_(short)
hair_length_(medium)
hair_length_(long)
hair_length_(very_long)
hair_length_(absurd)

This can be extremely helpful for hairstyle tagging as well, as there are so many and this would let you see a list of them without having to find the wiki.

This can obviously apply to breasts as well

Similarly, nail polish tags are straight fucked--it's a gamble as to what you're gonna get.
nail_polish applies to both fingers and toes, yet there's a toenail_polish tag and none for just fingers?

And not only that, but toenail_polish only has about 3k posts, while nail_polish has 44k.

I think that toenail and fingernail colors should be separate, as they're for VERY different markets.
This one isn't an easy alias like the others, though. There's no real way to automate this change.

toenail_polish and fingernail_polish should be seperate tags, both implying nail_polish. In addition, colors should be handled like so:

fingernails_(color)
toenails_(color)

This applies to nearly every tag for color.

panties_(color)
shirt_(color)
eyes_(color)
etc, you get the point.

Ideally, this format would apply to objects with more than 2 variations of itself ( thing_(attribute) ) It should be noted that I don't really think that the hair length tags are super necessary, I more or less used them as an example because there were only a few of them.

I'm also well aware that this system presents a lot of problems, like searching up these tags being less conversational and more robotic and logical.

Feel free to tell me why this is a dumb idea, I'm just starting a dialogue here. I do believe it would make everything a lot easier.

In my opinion, we should keep the tags as they are. It doesn't seem right to single out the colors and hair length -- or any limited set of characteristics -- and keep everything else as it was. Like, would we rename all instances of adjective_noun into noun_(adjective)? I guess we wouldn't, right?

The tag blue_panties fits nicely with say, wet_panties. Just like a post may have many tags starting with "blue_", it may have many other tags starting with "wet_" so your arguments apply to it and many other adjectives.

If we had panties_(blue), then for consistency some people might expect to see panties_(wet) and other tags like this.

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Danielx21 said:

In my opinion, we should keep the tags as they are. It doesn't seem right to single out the colors and hair length -- or any limited set of characteristics -- and keep everything else as it was. Like, would we rename all instances of adjective_noun into noun_(adjective)? I guess we wouldn't, right?

The tag blue_panties fits nicely with say, wet_panties. Just like a post may have many tags starting with "blue_", it may have many other tags starting with "wet_" so your arguments apply to it and many other adjectives.

If we had panties_(blue), then for consistency some people might expect to see panties_(wet) and other tags like this.

In an ideal system, you'll go with noun_descriptor_attribute. So it'll be panties_color_blue, panties_condition(?)_wet, or even noun_type_descriptor_attribute for stuff like keyboard_(computer)_color_red.

The upside is that the tag suggestion can suggest in level e.g. if you search for hair, then it'll suggest [hair_length / hair_color / hair_ornament / etc] and when you select hair_color, it'll suggest [hair_color_red / hair_color_blonde / etc]. Given the smaller, finite set of suggestions, scrollable tag suggestion could be a thing too!

It could be useful if say you're tagging shirts and they start suggesting all these descriptors. Currently, the tag suggestions only suggest the top X tags for w/e you're searching for, so you might miss stuff like "collared shirt" when tagging shirts.

But of course, this would only be truly useful if the tag suggestion is reworked to complement it, so there's little point of changing the current tag naming style if the tag suggestion remains the same.

Vezral said:

In an ideal system, you'll go with noun_descriptor_attribute. So it'll be panties_color_blue, panties_condition(?)_wet, or even noun_type_descriptor_attribute for stuff like keyboard_(computer)_color_red.

That isn't how the English language works, though, and in most cases ends up with significantly longer tags than there should be.

Idea quality bad.

Vezral said:

In an ideal system, you'll go with noun_descriptor_attribute. So it'll be panties_color_blue, panties_condition(?)_wet, or even noun_type_descriptor_attribute for stuff like keyboard_(computer)_color_red.

So it was you that came up with the impenetrable US military naming schema.

Overall, given the ability to use wildcards to search the names of tags, I don't see much depth in these changes either.

skylightcrystal said:

That isn't how the English language works, though, and in most cases ends up with significantly longer tags than there should be.

Idea quality bad.

If the main motivation is to assist tag suggestion / searching, then an alias would suffice; making it a matter of preference. It's practically throwing the entire tag group into the tag suggestion.

OOZ662 said:

Overall, given the ability to use wildcards to search the names of tags, I don't see much depth in these changes either.

Wait, it's possible to use wildcards to restrict tag suggestions to color / length?

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