Mika and Swiss Roll [Blue Archive]

BUR #61662 has been approved by @evazion.

mass update favgroup:57564 -> mika_swiss_roll_(meme)

We have quite a few images referencing the "Mika and Swiss Roll" meme, so I think it makes sense to create a separate tag for them.

I'm not sure how images like post #10311635 or post #10589821 should be handled, though. Is it enough for an image to simply feature Mika and a swiss roll, or should there be some emphasis on or interaction with the swiss roll for the tag to apply?

I'm not particularly fond of the tag name, but I couldn't come up with anything better. Perhaps someone else has a better suggestion.

(If this BUR goes through, I would really appreciate it if someone familiar with Blue Archive could add any missing information to the wiki.)

The bulk update request #61662 (forum #451445) has been approved by @evazion.

I'm not so sure. I'm fine with creating a tag for that specific healing animation, but I feel posts that don't directly or indirectly refer to that animation (like post #11327301 or post #8790829) should belong to a broader tag centered on the wider meme — specifically, Nagisa and her obsession with swiss rolls. While Mika is her most frequent victim, she isn't the only one.

If we have a tag like nagisa_swiss_roll_maniac_(meme) or something similar, then instances like post #11460164, post #9567772, or post #6653312 can all be included under it.

To be honest, I don't know much about Blue Archive. I came across a lot of images featuring Mika and swiss rolls, as well as the in-game animation, and assumed that she was the one who liked swiss rolls, which led me to believe that this was how the meme originated in the fandom.

If, as you say, it is Nagisa that is actually the "swiss roll maniac" and Mika is simply a frequent victim, then I see a few possible solutions:

• As you suggested, broaden the tag. I'm not sure how appropriate the name nagisa_swiss_roll_maniac_(meme) is, though, because if Nagisa isn't present in the image, it feels a little odd to me. The only alternative that comes to mind is swiss_roll_(blue_archive)_(meme), but I think that it's a rather poor name, as it's too ambiguous.

• Nuke the tag and leave things as they were.

I'll use my default example of Raana the cat, which I proposed. I intentionally made it super broad because I figured being anal about exact definitions would just reduce the utility of the tag, and I think it turned out well. I would say apply this tag to post #10311635 and post #10589821 too, for that reason.

I would also say drop the qualifier however, restricting it to just meme-y usages of the tag seems overly restrictive.

Popkornikus said in forum #451616:

To be honest, I don't know much about Blue Archive.

To give a bit of quick Blue Archive lore: yes Nagisa is the actual "swiss roll maniac" of the Tea Party. She has a commanding personality and constantly forces her love for swiss rolls onto others, specifically Mika and Seia, as they are among her few close friends.

In-game, there’s even a gag where she hosts a personal art exhibition featuring nothing but various paintings of swiss rolls (see post #9352842, post #8805940).

When Nagisa uses her skill to heal allies, most characters just get a normal animation of a plate of swiss rolls. Only Mika gets that Easter egg animation where she is forcefully stuffed with a giant swiss roll. By the way, this actually originated from the official 4koma back in 2021, predating the in-game playable release of Nagisa or Mika in 2023.

Popkornikus said in forum #451616:

If, as you say, it is Nagisa that is actually the "swiss roll maniac" and Mika is simply a frequent victim, then I see a few possible solutions:

• As you suggested, broaden the tag. I'm not sure how appropriate the name nagisa_swiss_roll_maniac_(meme) is, though, because if Nagisa isn't present in the image, it feels a little odd to me. The only alternative that comes to mind is swiss_roll_(blue_archive)_(meme), but I think that it's a rather poor name, as it's too ambiguous.

• Nuke the tag and leave things as they were.

As for the tag, I think we can still keep the mika_swiss_roll_(meme) tag because that specific animation is highly parodied. But we should restrict its definition to just that force-feeding action. In that case we might need to rename it to something like mika_eating_swiss_roll_(meme) to avoid ambiguity.

character parody, from video post #11299481

item parody, swiss roll changed to sushi (ehoumaki)

For general images depicting Nagisa's obsession with swiss rolls, we can create a separate tag. Even when she isn't physically present in the image, the reference to her is clear (though the specific name of the tag remains open to discussion).

ANON_TOKYO said in forum #451621:

I would say apply this tag to post #10311635 and post #10589821 too, for that reason.

Posts like post #10311635 and post #10589821 contain no comedic or parody intent, they simply feature Mika and Swiss Roll in the same image. I'd say the tag should not be applied, regardless of how we choose to define it. Otherwise, it would be no different from simply searching for mika_(blue_archive) swiss_roll.

araneus said in forum #451627:

Posts like post #10311635 and post #10589821 contain no intent of comedic/parody, they simply feature Mika and Swiss Roll in the same image. I'd say the tag should not be applied, regardless of how we choose to define it. Otherwise, it would be no different from simply searching for mika_(blue_archive) swiss_roll.

I'm more inclined to agree with that. Although I'm afraid users might start adding this tag just because they see swiss_roll in the image.

araneus said in forum #451627:

As for the tag, I think we can still keep the mika_swiss_roll_(meme) tag because that specific animation is highly parodied. But we should restrict its definition to just that force-feeding action. In that case we might need to rename it to something like mika_eating_swiss_roll_(meme) to avoid ambiguity.

For general images depicting Nagisa's obsession with swiss rolls, we can create a separate tag. Even when she isn't physically present in the image, the reference to her is clear (though the specific name of the tag remains open to discussion).

To be honest, I'm not really a fan of the idea of creating two separate tags for very similar concepts. For example, if we keep the tag mika swiss roll (meme) (or mika_eating_swiss_roll) and create a new one to highlight Nagisa's obsession with swiss rolls (e.g., nagisa_swiss_roll_maniac), then we would need to add both tags to post #8799694. I think this might confuse some users, especially if they're not familiar with Blue Archive, and as a result, both tags would likely become cluttered with incorrectly tagged posts.

I''d be more inclined to go with creating a single general tag that would combine both concepts.
But for now, I don't have a specific solution in mind. I need to think it over.

(It might be a good idea to put two options up for a vote and see which one users prefer.)

Popkornikus said in forum #451692:

I''d be more inclined to go with creating a single general tag that would combine both concepts.
But for now, I don't have a specific solution in mind. I need to think it over.

(It might be a good idea to put two options up for a vote and see which one users prefer.)

I understand the concern about user confusion, but the reason I still strongly lean toward having a separate, specific tag for that healing animation is that the force-feeding action itself has become a highly recognizable, standalone visual gag with a substantial volume of dedicated parodies. A single general tag might end up diluting this very specific sub-meme. In fact, I feel that making tag definitions as specific and clear as possible helps prevent clutter and misuse; users can simply look at the existing pool of images under the tag and instantly grasp that it refers strictly to that specific animation.

As for the broader blue archive swiss roll meme tag—where the core visual elements might be less rigid—some degree of clutter and misuse is likely unavoidable anyway. We could also make mika_eating_swiss_roll_(meme) **imply** the broader swiss roll meme tag, while adding a clarifying note on the wiki. I believe this distinction is clear and intuitive enough. As for users who simply won't bother checking the wiki—well, no matter what measures we take, we probably can't stop them from tagging incorrectly anyway.

That being said, putting these options up for a vote is a great idea. It would be good to see what the community prefers.