zoophilia parent tag

BUR #58859 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create implication bestiality -> zoophilia
create implication animal_sexualization -> zoophilia
create implication sex_with_insects -> zoophilia

evazion wanted this tag made to be added to the default blacklist but everyone else was too much of a coward to do it.

What about sex with insects and mating (animal)?

てはいさ said in forum #437475:

What about sex with insects and mating (animal)?

I don't think mating should count, didn't know about the other one. I can't add it to the BUR now and I think it will error trying to make a new BUR since zoophilia is currently aliased. Will have to be done afterward (assuming we want it to imply zoophilia, that is).

edit: I added the extra line.

For context:

Damian0358 said in forum #392262:

The discussion of bestiality and animal sexualization's inclusion into the default blacklist had once more popped up, and evazion had given a response where he expressed he would only do so if doing so were simple, prompting him to suggest the idea of an umbrella tag which encompasses those two tags, furry, chibikemo, and interspecies, i.e. basically anything that could contain sexual content with animal(-esque) characters [and said umbrella tag could be injected in place of furry in furry -rating:g], as anything other than that would require having to figure out an elegant solution to updating literally everyone's blacklists, not just the default. In the process, he considered tags such as chibikemo (and animal sexualization, strangely enough) as blacklist-evading because they aren't already fully under furry to begin with.

evazion said:

come up with a new umbrella tag that covers all this furry/animal shit so that I don't have to update the blacklist every time furries come up with a new tag to evade the blacklist

I don't want the default blacklist just to be half a dozen different rules to filter out e621-tier content, independent of blacklists you should be able to filter it out without needing that many different tags, see topic #33315 for someone asking how to filter this stuff out because furries keep coming up with new categories for everything

if you want to see what I'm talking about, browse hdk5's and zapdos' pokemon rating:e uploads, notice how many different tags you have to blacklist and how many things aren't covered by any tags at all, you essentially have to blacklist pokemon_(creature) rating:e

Which then inspired discussion on what actually constituted furry and in what ways people disagreed...

BUR #58870 has been rejected.

create implication mating_(animal) -> animal_sexualization

While I'm aware that there are posts in mating_(animal) rating:g, I also find that even these more gentle, comedic depictions of animal sexuality are something that, well, sexualizes animals

Stuff like post #2978182 or post #922291 shouldn't be tagged animal sexualization. That tag should only be used for images that "pornify" animals for the viewers.

BaiserLaVerite said in forum #437490:

Stuff like post #2978182 [...] shouldn't be tagged animal sexualization. That tag should only be used for images that "pornify" animals for the viewers.

These beetles were used as a euphemism for the fact that these two girls were having sex

[...] or post #922291 [...]

These birds act like they're in a porno (moaning), so much so that they even got a "q" rating, which I agree with. That's also sexualization.

BaiserLaVerite said in forum #437490:

Stuff like post #2978182 or post #922291 shouldn't be tagged animal sexualization. That tag should only be used for images that "pornify" animals for the viewers.

Agreed.

てはいさ said in forum #437487:

BUR #58870 has been rejected.

create implication mating_(animal) -> animal_sexualization

While I'm aware that there are posts in mating_(animal) rating:g, I also find that even these more gentle, comedic depictions of animal sexuality are something that, well, sexualizes animals

The difference between mating_(animal) and mating_(animal) animal_sexualization is the difference between post #4372635 and post #4855106. There's definitely overlap, but they shouldn't be implied.

But the sexualization of people also has different levels.

post #11295816
post #11287535

if i were to blacklist zoophilia, i would want to only filter out posts where animals are clearly the focus of the sexualization in question. there's a fine line between mating used as a symbol, non-sexually charged depictions of mating, and hardcore porn wherein the focus is on the animals.

Yeah, tagging post #2978182 as zoophilia is just weird.

Agree on the umbrella tag though.

I think people were hesitant because of the way evazion worded it (lumping in furry with the rest), and concerns about people adding it to a bunch of random furry -rating:g posts, but I do agree with the umbrella so long as it doesn't end up including furry (...by themselves, that is. Obviously furry bestiality posts should still be included, because I don't want to see someone fucking an animal regardless of whether they've got fur or not...)

These tags take up multiple lines on my blacklist and are some of the only tags on it, I'd much appreciate if that only had to be one, and I'm sure others would as well.

The bulk update request #58870 (forum #437487) has been rejected by @nonamethanks.

BUR #59727 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

remove alias zoophilia -> bestiality

Have to do it in two parts

The bulk update request #59727 (forum #440495) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

The bulk update request #58859 (forum #437465) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

BUR #59795 is pending approval.

create implication implied_bestiality -> zoophilia
create implication imminent_bestiality -> zoophilia

Might want this one too.