fairyboobles said:
Hmm, kinda a dumb/noob question but does renaming a wiki page also rename the tag itself?
The wikis def need to be switched, but then the posts would need to have the tags switched too. If renaming a wiki page automatically updates all those posts with the new tag name, that would be super convenient, but I was under the assumption that isn't possible hence BURS.
No, renaming a wiki does not rename the tag it is associated with. If you manually rename a tag, that leaves the wiki as an isolate, and viceversa renaming a wiki leaves a tag without a wiki (and similarly, manually renaming a tag does not update all instances of a tag in all wikis automatically). This is why doing BURs is convenient.
Going back to focusing on this specific problem at hand, I think I would prefer seeing if we could switch the posts by a switcharoo BUR first. After spot checking both tags, I think it's fair to say they're both accurate-enough-ish to be switched first then gardened after. Out of the two, choppy_bangs seems to be way messier though, from what I've seen in there there's stuff I'd consider to be more stuff i'd consider more blunt bangs, or double parted bangs, or actual choppy bangs (aka what is now currently tagged on danbooru as wispy_bangs, which honestly I can't blame people for this since they're correct irl/literally even if not correct based on current wiki definitions)
Honestly I am kind of starting to confuse myself talking about this too, so I'm going to try my hand at some BURS to get this going and start collecting some votes. Once everything is straightened out/righted I feel like it will be easier to garden too.
Alright, as long as the BUR actually manages to do what you intend.
Honestly, I think all the x_bangs tags in general are all over the place (for the most part - some are better than others) in terms of accurate tagging; while having the specificity of so many different bangs tags are nice, the fact that bangs by itself is deprecated complicates the issue imo; the nuances of tagging which specific bangs is which is both tedious and can be difficult to discern at times, which I think leads people to either never tag any of the bangs tags options to begin with, or just pick one that sounds right/closest, or even just genuine mistaken tagging because it's kind of more complicated in practice than it seems you know! I feel like just having all of the specific bang types aliased to the bangs tag without the bangs tag being deprecated would help a lot of this (I mean, lazy taggers are going to be lazy taggers regardless, imo its just the difference between having them tag JUST bangs by itself so someone else can come in with the more specific tag later if needed, or no tag at all/mistagged. Buuuuut this is completely beside the point and is a whole other conversation that goes into a bigger picture tagging philosophy & opinions differences haha.
I mean, I think the only problem relative to that is what one would consider a 'default' bangs tag. Just having bangs is useless, practically speaking, but I don't think we have a tag for what is one of the most common bangs style.
As someone who deliberately decides to have bangs, they can turn out in different ways, whether they be swept, v-shaped, center-flap-looking, or even blunt... but if the latter two were depicted in a post they wouldn't count because they aren't cut. Blunt bangs and in turn any tag that derives partially from it, like center-flap bangs, require that they be explicitly cut bangs (so if you have double-parted center-flap bangs, which is what I was referring for myself, you technically shouldn't use center-flap bangs for that, even though people do tag it like that anyway, and this isn't even mentioning parted hair, blunt ends...), so naturally blunt bangs (or otherwise 'indeterminate' direction) do not have a tag. Like, thinking of an example, post #5702978, none of our bangs tag really fit except possibly swept bangs, but the implication for that tag is that you have a parted section as a result of the bangs being swept, while here they are swept because how else are the bangs supposed to rest on her forehead?
This also reminded me that, back when bangs got nuked in topic #23003, that's when the tags we're talking about, choppy and wispy, were made, so you can look there how this happened.
