Tenshi beat Sukia the last time the two of them fought. The only time Sukia won was the time Tenshi was holding back.
when did it happen? the only time they fought was during the SWR incident and Suika threatened Tenshi for some land on Heaven and Tenshi have to accept it (mention in Iku ending). Also, in her ending, Tenshi do worries about how long Suika intends to stay on Heaven without being able to chase her away by herself.
when did it happen? the only time they fought was during the SWR incident and Suika threatened Tenshi for some land on Heaven and Tenshi have to accept it (mention in Iku ending). Also, in her ending, Tenshi do worries about how long Suika intends to stay on Heaven without being able to chase her away by herself.
except for the fact that Tenshi only defeats Suika in game-play, not in the story. Suika still staying in Heaven and trolling Tenshi after their fight in Tenshi's scenario.
except for the fact that Tenshi only defeats Suika in game-play, not in the story.
What does this even mean? She beats her like everyone else, and Suika has her defeated portrait with torn clothes after the fight, like everyone else. The fact that she agreed to lend Suika part of her land is unrelated to that, winning a fight doesn't mean that an agreement immediately gets re-negotiated. It would have to be something like "if I beat you this time, you leave", with Suika agreeing. At this point Tenshi clearly still expects her to eventually leave by herself.
What does this even mean? She beats her like everyone else, and Suika has her defeated portrait with torn clothes after the fight, like everyone else. The fact that she agreed to lend Suika part of her land is unrelated to that, winning a fight doesn't mean that an agreement immediately gets re-negotiated. It would have to be something like "if I beat you this time, you leave", with Suika agreeing. At this point Tenshi clearly still expects her to eventually leave by herself.
because of their fight in Tenshi scenario and their fight in Suika scenario is the same, not 2 different fight. Suika beat Tenshi and stay there until the end of Tenshi scenario (In Suika scenario Tenshi thought Suika will soon get bored and leave Heaven but in Tenshi scenario, Tenshi then worried when will Suika will Heaven, which basically mean Suika haven't leave yet), and only leave to rebuild the Hakurei Shrine as Yukari request during Yukari ending
yeah sure, I think I already said that it's the gameplay, not the story itself?
I forget the details, but whenever Remilia fights on a outdoor, daytime stage or versus Utsuho in 12.3 her clothes will be damaged even when she wins. So broken clothes are not necessarily just the game saying "this one lost".
I forget the details, but whenever Remilia fights on a outdoor, daytime stage or versus Utsuho in 12.3 her clothes will be damaged even when she wins. So broken clothes are not necessarily just the game saying "this one lost".
Yeah, so I can say that broken clothes not always mean that character lose, right?
because of their fight in Tenshi scenario and their fight in Suika scenario is the same, not 2 different fight. Suika beat Tenshi and stay there until the end of Tenshi scenario (In Suika scenario Tenshi thought Suika will soon get bored and leave Heaven but in Tenshi scenario, Tenshi then worried when will Suika will Heaven, which basically mean Suika haven't leave yet), and only leave to rebuild the Hakurei Shrine as Yukari request during Yukari ending
Oh wait, I messed up in this point. Tenshi scenario happen after most of the people.
Sorry for my mistake. However, I still not sure that do Tenshi really beat Suika or hold back for the first time they fought. Since Suika objectives is different from other people and Tenshi dialogue show that she not fine with it, so I don’t think Tenshi really hold back on Suika, she don’t have reason to do that and have quite a lot of reason to not do that. In fact, Tenshi totally again that idea tho.
Sorry for my mistake. However, I still not sure that do Tenshi really beat Suika or hold back for the first time they fought. Since Suika objectives is different from other people and Tenshi dialogue show that she not fine with it, so I don’t think Tenshi really hold back on Suika, she don’t have reason to do that and have quite a lot of reason to not do that. In fact, Tenshi totally again that idea tho.
I don't think complicated explanations are necessary, Tenshi could have lost to Suika one time and won the other time without anyone holding back (or, rather, most likely with both holding back as usual for Touhou since no one in games wants to kill each other). Just like real world fighters can win and lose against each other at different times.
I don't think complicated explanations are necessary, Tenshi could have lost to Suika one time and won the other time without anyone holding back (or, rather, most likely with both holding back as usual for Touhou since no one in games wants to kill each other). Just like real world fighters can win and lose against each other at different times.
That’s also make sense with me. Maybe it’s the case
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