If Urobutcher done it you would not have seen it coming. This was telegraphed since the start of the episode.
They were broadcasting it so blatantly I thought this was going to be just making fun of it. Lo and behold, there she goes. The one thing I hate in Kancolle, the single black smirch on something so awesome, is the fact that they can die in the game :< And then someone told me that you have to be a really really really bad admiral to let them die cuz it was essentially impossible. And there we go, first death in the anime. I really hope they're not following the historical deaths. I am not prepared for that.
They were broadcasting it so blatantly I thought this was going to be just making fun of it. Lo and behold, there she goes. The one thing I hate in Kancolle, the single black smirch on something so awesome, is the fact that they can die in the game :< And then someone told me that you have to be a really really really bad admiral to let them die cuz it was essentially impossible. And there we go, first death in the anime. I really hope they're not following the historical deaths. I am not prepared for that.
I dunno. After a while you get so used to it that you start trying to see who bites it in the end. Man I watched too much Gaim.
And it didn't help that the death flags was thrown all over the place.
LegendOfAHero said: They were broadcasting it so blatantly I thought this was going to be just making fun of it. Lo and behold, there she goes. The one thing I hate in Kancolle, the single black smirch on something so awesome, is the fact that they can die in the game :< And then someone told me that you have to be a really really really bad admiral to let them die cuz it was essentially impossible.
Only after they changed things to my understanding. Apparently back when it first began it was quite possible to get a bad roll and boom, critical hit, dead ship. Given how RNG the entire thing was this apparently caused quite a bit of rage and it was changed so you could basically only loose units if you really pushed your luck.
Anyway it's a war, even against a very marginal enemy with sound leadership people are going to get killed in a war. I'm honestly somewhat surprised they did it though. I was expecting this to be ultra creampuff 'we win without so much as a scratch' stuff, so minor points from me for offing one. Although I'd have given them a bit more if it had been someone with ANY name recognition, established character, or significant following in the fanon.
LegendOfAHero said: I really hope they're not following the historical deaths. I am not prepared for that.
Only after they changed things to my understanding. Apparently back when it first began it was quite possible to get a bad roll and boom, critical hit, dead ship. Given how RNG the entire thing was this apparently caused quite a bit of rage and it was changed so you could basically only loose units if you really pushed your luck.
Anyway it's a war, even against a very marginal enemy with sound leadership people are going to get killed in a war. I'm honestly somewhat surprised they did it though. I was expecting this to be ultra creampuff 'we win without so much as a scratch' stuff, so minor points from me for offing one. Although I'd have given them a bit more if it had been someone with ANY name recognition, established character, or significant following in the fanon.
I know they pretty much all get sunk historically, that's why I'm hoping they're not following that, haha. Having Kisaragi as the first death is not encouraging. I like my kanmusu alive and happy, thank you very much. Like you said, I do like that they're taking a more serious note with it though. Although maybe they'll take the "kanmusu => abyssal girls when they die" route and turn that into a plot point. Hopefully they don't Sayaka it. That won't be good for anyone.
It's anime, they might find someway to dragon ball them back to life.
That said, abusing the concept of character death to prove your story is hardcore and SUPER CEREAL is a hallmark of poor creative writing. Character death is a really hard thing to do correctly without looking hackneyed.
It's anime, they might find someway to dragon ball them back to life.
That said, abusing the concept of character death to prove your story is hardcore and SUPER CEREAL is a hallmark of poor creative writing. Character death is a really hard thing to do correctly without looking hackneyed.
Well there is ship construction. But it's never the same one.
It's anime, they might find someway to dragon ball them back to life.
That said, abusing the concept of character death to prove your story is hardcore and SUPER CEREAL is a hallmark of poor creative writing. Character death is a really hard thing to do correctly without looking hackneyed.
What utter nonsense.
In fact it's basically a requirement to make the supposed threat of an enemy in an action series real. If you keep talking about danger or how bad the enemy is or whatever and yet no one of any consequence ever ends up with so much as a scratch you rather quickly loose creditability. Name me a widely acclaimed series featuring combat and I'll show you a trail of dead characters.
Well there is ship construction. But it's never the same one.
IMO, it will be a much stronger impact rather than killing Akagi at this point. They can use it as an opportunity to make Fubuki question something really scary?
It's anime, they might find someway to dragon ball them back to life.
To be fair to Dragon Ball, it wasn't really until DBZ where they started to abuse the Balls. If even Piccolo is shrugging off death, you know you got a problem there.
In DB though, the first times any of the characters died, like Roshi or Krillan, it was actually really emotional. It just lost all impact in DBZ. Even when Goku died at the beginning of DBZ everyone was like "Meh, let's use the dragon balls!". Then things got really out of hand when they could just use the Namek Dragonballs whenever they wanted to.
Name me a widely acclaimed series featuring combat and I'll show you a trail of dead characters.
Girls und Panzer? But really,it's just as you said. And assuming that because this is an anime,so they can do whatever they want to reset anything that happened is just as ignorant as saying anime is for kids. Yes,a lot of shows abused dead for quick&cheap drama,but there's a very good reason they did that - It works great,when doing it properly.Most shows that resort to abusing the trope is just not that great and make it look bad.
That's like saying Sabagebu was a combat series. Girls und Panzer was a sports series with tanks - more airsoft than anything.
Still, this is a war, and people can die in them. They killed Wo-chan off screen, so at least Kisaragi was seen by the audience to avoid any ambiguity.
Now if they bring in a replacement clone Kisaragi....
Folks should stop crying about how Kanmusu should be immune to death =/
If they can sink the Shinkaiseikan, it's only fair that the Shinkaiseikan can sink them too.
And I strongly object to the use of any reset function unless it's to further the impact caused by the death. If you feel that killing someone is a cheap way to evoke feels, voiding that death makes it even worse. At the end of the day, folks won't care any more about the Kanmusu fighting simply because the battles are no longer real to them. It'll be like, imho, watching WWE, where the matches look real but everyone knows it's all staged and rehearsed and everything is just an act.
Folks should stop crying about how Kanmusu should be immune to death =/
If they can sink the Shinkaiseikan, it's only fair that the Shinkaiseikan can sink them too.
I had always assume the Shinkaiseikan can't be sunked, since most of the time even when you sink them they come back to life later. Hoppu for example should have been destroyed but she makes it back in, as well as the Southern Princess/Demons.
For the Kanmusu being sunk, won't they just reincarnate or something once you get another one of them? So I'm holding out for the hope that being sunk isn't a big deal and that Kisaragi will just be back in a couple episodes and talk about what a hindrance it is to be knocked under.
I had always assume the Shinkaiseikan can't be sunked, since most of the time even when you sink them they come back to life later. Hoppu for example should have been destroyed but she makes it back in, as well as the Southern Princess/Demons.
For the Kanmusu being sunk, won't they just reincarnate or something once you get another one of them? So I'm holding out for the hope that being sunk isn't a big deal and that Kisaragi will just be back in a couple episodes and talk about what a hindrance it is to be knocked under.
I suspect post #1909880 is the more likely scenario... since, unless this war only JUST started, I doubt that the Fubuki who acts as the viewpoint character is the first EVER Fubuki. And she doesn't seem to have any past life memories, which contradicts the scenario you suggested.
Given that Akagi and Kaga are famous enough that Fubuki knew of them before she met them... I'd say the war has been going on for a while. And this IS war, not pro wrestling.
I suspect post #1909880 is the more likely scenario... since, unless this war only JUST started, I doubt that the Fubuki who acts as the viewpoint character is the first EVER Fubuki. And she doesn't seem to have any past life memories, which contradicts the scenario you suggested.
Given that Akagi and Kaga are famous enough that Fubuki knew of them before she met them... I'd say the war has been going on for a while. And this IS war, not pro wrestling.
Or it could work with something like the girls from both the abyss and fleet being purified or corrupted when they get sunk, like what happened to Harusame. It would also explain how you find girls from sortie and such, but it's all fan speculation. Doesn't really matter, i guess.
Jarlath said: I suspect post #1909880 is the more likely scenario... since, unless this war only JUST started, I doubt that the Fubuki who acts as the viewpoint character is the first EVER Fubuki. And she doesn't seem to have any past life memories, which contradicts the scenario you suggested.
Given that Akagi and Kaga are famous enough that Fubuki knew of them before she met them... I'd say the war has been going on for a while. And this IS war, not pro wrestling.
Or like numerous other things they're largely ignoring game mechanics. So just because Fubuki is a starter or easy to find in game doesn't mean that in a more 'realistic' scenario that she would automatically show up early on. For that matter we still have no real idea where the girls come from at all, unless I missed something in (admittedly largely skimming) the episodes. I suspect if they bother to explain at all, and I kind of doubt they will given how they've explained almost NOTHING about the settings backstory, they would go with the 'normal girls recruited cause they can use magic' approach ala Strike Witches.
In that context then the only thing that defines when a ship is 'built' is probably when you can find someone compatible with the gear, and if you were building such a force it seems like a no brainier you'd focus on trying to fill out the vital, but number limited positions like aircraft carriers before you went looking to recruit a swarm of mass-produced and largely interchangeable DDs. It also makes total sense in such a set up that Fubuki would've heard of them before being recruited. This would of course mean that anyone killed is just as dead as any soldier would be in reality.
Admittedly them acting like Fubuki something special isn't quite as easily explained, but it can be reasonably passed off as them simply knowing of her classes historical significance and expecting something impressive.
That's like saying Sabagebu was a combat series. Girls und Panzer was a sports series with tanks - more airsoft than anything.
Still, this is a war, and people can die in them. They killed Wo-chan off screen, so at least Kisaragi was seen by the audience to avoid any ambiguity.
Now if they bring in a replacement clone Kisaragi....
if you're referring to the Wo-class, she's still alive, with a vengeance.