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[BUR] Granblue Fantasy character and race names

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Re: Societte, my bad, thought you meant JP syllables vs. EN. I think my judgement on this is a bit clouded because Socie looks really silly and doesn't match the JP (Soshie, of course). I'm sort of wondering where it came from since it wasn't in the artbooks either, IIRC (I think her first appearance in the archives was in volume 2, where it was already "Societte"...) I know that people have been using that spelling (Socie) for a *very* long time, though...

Re: Mahira

It's not the "hi"/"ki" part that bothers me (that one's due to fuzziness of pronunciation with Japanese's relatively limited sounds available, and shows up on some other foreign names/words consistently in Japanese stuff in general), it's the "Me"/"Mi"/"Ma" difference that stands out weirdly --- the conventional JP for Mihira is "Mekira". They got the "conventional JP version" of all the other names exactly right (Anchira/Anira/etc), but not Mahira's for some reason.

Kerasu said:

Bottom line is, three out of four (so far) Divine Generals already have tags matching their Sanskrit spellings

I basically agree with you on that overall, but the fact that they got the JP "right" for 3 out of 4 of them makes the one that is "wrong" stand out more. I can easily believe they have bad translations (which is basically a fact for the early EN stuff, like in the Fate episodes where Quatre's name is written as uh, "Cattle"...), but I'm more likely to think that differing JP is more intentional.

However, as mentioned, I'm okay with it either way --- your argument for it is a sound one, so I think it is sensible to switch to that if people want it.

EDIT: In summary, my current stance is that I think it's reasonable to:

  • adjust Societte
  • I don't mind changing Grande if there are strong feelings about it, since it's kinda a gray area to start with, at best
  • Mahira can be changed for consistency if people want (I just wanted to make sure people were aware that there were some unique differences that Andira/Anila/Vajra did not have in their names that Mahira does.)
  • Muon (and the other "vastly different" ones) should be kept JP-primary, and
  • I do not think Thalatha should be changed.

I'm not heavily invested enough into any of these (besides maaaybe Thalatha, but even then...) that I'd argue much more if Danbooru as a whole wants one or another, and I'll be happy to slap up a request to have these changed if this covers what you mentioned.

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kozaki.saya said:

In summary, my current stance is that I think it's reasonable to:

  • adjust Societte
  • I don't mind changing Grande if there are strong feelings about it, since it's kinda a gray area to start with, at best
  • Mahira can be changed for consistency if people want (I just wanted to make sure people were aware that there were some unique differences that Andira/Anila/Vajra did not have in their names that Mahira does.)
  • Muon (and the other "vastly different" ones) should be kept JP-primary, and
  • I do not think Thalatha should be changed.

I'm not heavily invested enough into any of these (besides maaaybe Thalatha, but even then...) that I'd argue much more if Danbooru as a whole wants one or another, and I'll be happy to slap up a request to have these changed if this covers what you mentioned.

Sounds fair to me.

I'm getting a "Error: Error: A tag alias for zooey_(granblue_fantasy) already exists (create alias the_order_grande -> zooey_(granblue_fantasy))" when I'm trying to put together the BUR, is there a specific procedure for reversing alias orders?

The ones I'm trying to do are:

alias the_order_grande -> zooey_(granblue_fantasy)
alias societte_(granblue_fantasy) -> socie_(granblue_fantasy)
alias makira_(granblue_fantasy) -> mahira_(granblue_fantasy)

kozaki.saya said:

I'm getting a "Error: Error: A tag alias for zooey_(granblue_fantasy) already exists (create alias the_order_grande -> zooey_(granblue_fantasy))" when I'm trying to put together the BUR, is there a specific procedure for reversing alias orders?

The ones I'm trying to do are:

alias the_order_grande -> zooey_(granblue_fantasy)
alias societte_(granblue_fantasy) -> socie_(granblue_fantasy)
alias makira_(granblue_fantasy) -> mahira_(granblue_fantasy)

You must unalias the old alias first and then make a seperate request after that for the other way around.

remove alias zooey_(granblue_fantasy) -> the_order_grande
remove alias socie_(granblue_fantasy) -> societte_(granblue_fantasy)
remove alias mahira_(granblue_fantasy) -> makira_(granblue_fantasy)

Link to request

Unaliasing the mentioned tags to prepare to reverse alias order.

EDIT: This bulk update request is pending automatic rejection in 5 days.

EDIT: The bulk update request #1543 (forum #144669) has been approved by @Hillside_Moose.

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This might as well go in here: we currently have two character tags for the same person, charlotta_(granblue_fantasy) and charlotta_fenia_(granblue_fantasy). Similar to katalina_aryze, the actual tag should probably just be charlotta_fenia; it's sufficiently unique, I don't think we're ever going to need the qualifier. The other tags can probably just be updated to the new one rather than aliased; we don't have any other tags starting with charlotta.

create alias the_order_grande -> zooey_(granblue_fantasy)
create alias societte_(granblue_fantasy) -> socie_(granblue_fantasy)
create alias makira_(granblue_fantasy) -> mahira_(granblue_fantasy)
mass update charlotta_(granblue_fantasy) -> charlotta_fenia
mass update charlotta_fenia_(granblue_fantasy) -> charlotta_fenia

Link to request

Part 2 of alias fixes, and also updating Charlotta to the suggested name tag.

EDIT: The bulk update request #1692 (forum #147368) has been approved by @Hillside_Moose.

Updated by DanbooruBot

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