Unapproved in three days after returning to moderation queue (previous reason: Bad, unfunny, not danbooru-level quality, usually provokes retarded comments, hard translated. Clammbon in a nutshell.)
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Typical arguments pro-yukkuri-mutilation lovers usually use to justify their deviant behavior is that "their not human" or their "an inferior life form", while either conveniently ignoring (or failing to understand) that brutal torture and rancor killing is looked down upon in modern society.
Its important to remember, though, that yukkuri are fictional characters. Because of this, killing them is not wrong (as it is fictional). However, going back to the first point, anyone who enjoys the mutilation and brutal killing of other beings (fictional or not) is a sadistic jerkwad by society's standards. Viciously mocking and laughing at another beings pain is either evidence that the individual in question has a mental disorder (which is perfectly excusable), or is immature, sheltered, and doesn't know the meaning of pain and helplessness.
I juts like to see it die a horrible death, that's all I care about. Sometime I like the yukkuri, sometime they are cute. But to see them die like this is fine for me. Don't really care what others think about this, but when I like it, I like it. Simple isn't it ? Call me sadistic, I'll take it. It's just one of the thing I like. It's much better to see me smiling (or laughing even) after seeing this than seeing me smiling over a real dead body, right ?
Shad12ow said: I juts like to see it die a horrible death, that's all I care about. Sometime I like the yukkuri, sometime they are cute. But to see them die like this is fine for me. Don't really care what others think about this, but when I like it, I like it. Simple isn't it ? Call me sadistic, I'll take it. It's just one of the thing I like. It's much better to see me smiling (or laughing even) after seeing this than seeing me smiling over a real dead body, right ?
There's nothing WRONG with being sadistic (see above) there's just something wrong in pretending to be. If your a sadist that's perfectly okay. If anything its better to be honest about what you are. Just realize that society and their "standards" will hate you for being a sadist.
I'm just tired of people saying that yukkuri are scum/deserve to die/ect to justify their enjoyment of torture comics (Not saying you did, of course...)
Torqueware said: There's nothing WRONG with being sadistic (see above) there's just something wrong in pretending to be. If your a sadist that's perfectly okay. If anything its better to be honest about what you are. Just realize that society and their "standards" will hate you for being a sadist.
I'm just tired of people saying that yukkuri are scum/deserve to die/ect to justify their enjoyment of torture comics (Not saying you did, of course...)
Yup, I totally agree with you. When I like it, I will say I like. I don't call the yukkuri scum.deserve to die/ect, I just like seeing them die in a horrible way, sometimes. It's simple. Why does people find it hard to just say they like it because they like ? I wonder why... Oh, and thank you for being quite wise, I like it.
Torqueware said: There's nothing WRONG with being sadistic (see above) there's just something wrong in pretending to be. If your a sadist that's perfectly okay. If anything its better to be honest about what you are. Just realize that society and their "standards" will hate you for being a sadist.
I'm just tired of people saying that yukkuri are scum/deserve to die/ect to justify their enjoyment of torture comics (Not saying you did, of course...)
You seem to forget most peoples reasons for wanting to see yukkuri tortured in these manners is that for the most part they're little shits. Read some of the translated comic series on One Yukkuri Place, and you'll see what I mean. Not to mention they have a tendency to make people WANT to see them hurt. Heck, when I first started reading those translated pages I did too. Artists admit it as well, there's just something about the little buggers. Then again I'd never hurt a Kogasa yukkuri. All comes down to the personalities.
Torqueware said: There's nothing WRONG with being sadistic (see above) there's just something wrong in pretending to be. If your a sadist that's perfectly okay. If anything its better to be honest about what you are. Just realize that society and their "standards" will hate you for being a sadist.
I'm just tired of people saying that yukkuri are scum/deserve to die/ect to justify their enjoyment of torture comics (Not saying you did, of course...)
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SindriAndBale said: You seem to forget most peoples reasons for wanting to see yukkuri tortured in these manners is that for the most part they're little shits. Read some of the translated comic series on One Yukkuri Place, and you'll see what I mean. Not to mention they have a tendency to make people WANT to see them hurt. Heck, when I first started reading those translated pages I did too. Artists admit it as well, there's just something about the little buggers. Then again I'd never hurt a Kogasa yukkuri. All comes down to the personalities.
SindriAndBale said: ...Read some of the translated comic series on One Yukkuri Place, and you'll see what I mean...
I'm going to address this part of your post first (I want to first clarify where I'm coming from as well as my taste).
But, more importantly, before that...
SindriAndBale said: ...Then again I'd never hurt a Kogasa yukkuri...
I wouldn't either. Kogasa's are fucking adorable.
Now that we got that out of the way...
I do a bit of lurking on One Yukkuri Place as well as here. Typically there are more pictures at OYP than Danbooru, but sometimes the pics here are soft translated, while their counterparts at OYP are not (I require translations because I suck and don't know Japanese). I also regularly check the Yufanfics page on google groups.
My personal favorites can range from Clammbons "family friendly" "tutorials" to the more violent Between studies. Sometimes I enjoy the more extreme works, but not typically. I'm mostly a fan of light bullying, teasing, and such. Not so much a fan of extreme manjuu mutilation.
That being said...
BE WARNED, RANT IMMINENT
(If you want the short jist, I marked it with a similar comment at the bottom for your convenience)
SindriAndBale said: You seem to forget most peoples reasons for wanting to see yukkuri tortured in these manners is that for the most part they're little shits ... Not to mention they have a tendency to make people WANT to see them hurt. Heck, when I first started reading those translated pages I did too. Artists admit it as well, there's just something about the little buggers ... All comes down to the personalities.
Now, for the most part I agree that many/most yukkuri are little shits. And for the most part I LOVE laser guided karma. Damn all them trash deibus. We have so many gutter trash antagonists to choose from it practically goes without saying.
Also, as for the yukkuri having a strange effect on others, encouraging their own destruction: The crying moe (that fails on epic levels) IS one of their inherent weaknesses. I don't really have a problem with this, as it goes with the territory (There HAS to be conflict to advance the plot anyways... surviving abuse seems the most natural choice).
However, many illustrations on OYP with happy newborn koyukkuri suddenly being killed horrifically have comments like "little shits.", "they deserve nothing less!", or other equivalents. They haven't done anything worth condemnation yet, but despite this, people post comments passing judgment on the character as if they did (Though, perhaps these are clever trolls designed to confuse and unsettle people like me. If this was the case, I fell for it).
The above judgments seems unjust, or just plain ridiculous. I would even go so far as to say they restrict/deny character development, as the mentality encourages comics that make sure to kill off EVERY yukkuri in sight. Everything dying horribly for no reason at all besides "they deserve it" just makes the comics boring and predictable.
I believe this is why comics like "orphan alice" or stories like ANKO 772 are so loved on the site. There is an ACTUAL dynamic character that is allowed to DEVELOP into something interesting and SURVIVES LONGER than point five seconds.
Nothing wrong with a little hardship, of course, it makes the story interesting. Nothing wrong with death and injustice either, as these are also valuable tools that the author employs to create an interesting plot. I believe the problem lies with the individuals on the site so caught up in seeing yukkuri mutilation that it becomes PURELY the point of the comic (Not the peril of the injustice of the situation, or the awesomeness of lazer guided JUSTICE missiles, ect...).
END RANT
Basically, I'm fed up with people killing yukkuri for the sake of killing/lack of reason. If you like seeing an anon throw bean paste everywhere, that's cool, that's a reason. If you like the terrible struggle that it goes through before it dies, that's a reason too. But looking at a random splattered body without ANY context and saying "deserved it. refreshed~" is NOT a reason. It's an obnoxious parallel of the same annoying norm of random large explosions followed by the utterance of "Awesome".
Lick_King said: That one called Tea in OYP is one of the worst abominations I have ever witnessed online.
OYP crew are just immature kids that haven't even developed a stable moral compass yet. Every time they try to engage in a serious debate over the moral plausibility of the "yukkuri torture" concept, they fail miserably. Time will cure this, it's just that acting sociopathic on the internet is really edgy and hip nowadays, remember emo kids, setting cats on fire with lighter fluid, cutting self, et cetera ad nauseam.
Every time I look at this, I can never figure out how that apple was able to gain enough acceleration to crush them. It sure as hell isn't large/heavy enough to crush them from a slow start.
Chaykon said: Time will cure this, it's just that acting sociopathic on the internet is really edgy and hip nowadays, remember emo kids, setting cats on fire with lighter fluid, cutting self, et cetera ad nauseam.
Yeah, I know what you mean.... I'd written about kids who think being sociopathic, cheering over sex and violence is cool and awesome in my blog the very day before I discovered yukkuri torture. Heh heh heh.
I dunno, I think I'd rather not form an opinion of yukkuris at all. There is something about them that is a little off. Can't place my finger on it though.
ZeiZou said: There is something about them that is a little off. Can't place my finger on it though.
You mean like the misshapen head? Personally yukkuri's are either annoying, cute, or comic relief. If something violent happens there's nothing wrong with it as long it's something that probably came out of a looney toons show. However when done to the degree of abusing things simply to see them suffer...not my bag.
Based on my (very limited) experience, these creatures seem to me to be
1. Mind-blowingly stupid. 2. Unable to protect themselves. At all.
I'm far from a compassionate hyper-concerned type, but even I have limits. Seeing the completely pointless death of what amounts to a helpless child bothers me.
Would you distance snipe an infant while it was breast feeding?
I'm fine with mercilessly killing something, If it has some means of protecting itself and/or poses an immediate danger to you, your goals, or your immediate friends and/or family.
And I don't speak out of a concern for the patently fictional creatures in the drawing. I simply say that mercilessly killing something that is both helpless and stupid doesn't bode well for your own psychology.
I did not bothered to read all the yukkuri hate posts, but come OOOOOON, they baby/young yukkuris, they only wanted to push an apple up-hill, how do they deserve to die?, some people dont have the right to be parents or own pets
I never understanded why people would go "badshit insane" about this stuff. After going through the entire OYP database the only thing that I learned was that's it's full with trolls and immature people who are taking their frustations out on a (defenseless) fictional being, failing to realise that it is the artist of the story that makes them (yukkuri's and anons) act that way. It almost makes me feel sorry for those people sign...
DUHEED said: Hey mods, can you ban the yukkuri tag? The level of autism that tag brings is just too much for me to handle.
1-. Click on "My Account" 2-. Enter "Settings" 3-. Type in the blacklist "yukkuri_shiteitte_ne" 4-. Save your changes 5-. Enjoy a Danbooru free of Yukkuris
Gah! said: 1-. Click on "My Account" 2-. Enter "Settings" 3-. Type in the blacklist "yukkuri_shiteitte_ne" 4-. Save your changes 5-. Enjoy a Danbooru free of Yukkuris
6. Be unable to resist the temptation that "Blacklisted image" brings and check every image that has that.