Endfield uniform?

BUR #54481 has been rejected.

nuke endfield_uniform

Do we need endfield uniform? I'd understand if it were applied on the z7 members (Fluorite, Estella, Akekuri, Antal, Catcher) since the wiki implies it's for those, but it gets stuck on the Endministrator, Perlica, and Rossi as well? At that point it's just a tag for any Endfield-affiliated operator...

Paging @thefoxne since they created the tag and wiki.

hasu_no_tokimeki said in forum #417167:

BUR #54481 has been rejected.

nuke endfield_uniform

Do we need endfield uniform? I'd understand if it were applied on the z7 members (Fluorite, Estella, Akekuri, Antal, Catcher) since the wiki implies it's for those, but it gets stuck on the Endministrator, Perlica, and Rossi as well? At that point it's just a tag for any Endfield-affiliated operator...

Paging @thefoxne since they created the tag and wiki.

I'm sorry, but I'm also referring to Endmin's jacket. It's quite similar to the staff's uniforms as well.As for the characters without Endmin's jacket, like Rossi, I didn't tag them at all.

OK, I removed it from posts with only Perlica and/or Rossi. I still don't see the vision though. If a vaguely similar coat counts for a "uniform" despite the rest of the Endmin's clothing being something else entirely, it's not much of a uniform, is it?

Not to mention that if this tag actually applies to the Endmin (which it shouldn't, IMO), they would absolutely destroy the utility of this tag. Endministrator (Arknights) has almost 900 posts, dwarfing even Fluorite (Arknights) and her groupmates combined.

hasu_no_tokimeki said in forum #417174:

OK, I removed it from posts with only Perlica and/or Rossi. I still don't see the vision though. If a vaguely similar coat counts for a "uniform" despite the rest of the Endmin's clothing being something else entirely, it's not much of a uniform, is it?

Not to mention that if this tag actually applies to the Endmin (which it shouldn't, IMO), they would absolutely destroy the utility of this tag. Endministrator (Arknights) has almost 900 posts, dwarfing even Fluorite (Arknights) and her groupmates combined.

I don't know, maybe we'll discuss it further and look into the game and the Rhodes Island uniform tag.

(+1) How about deprecating it instead?

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In any case, I did some looking around, and the Dijiang has actual staff walking around with their own uniforms, so this tag is already too poorly named. There's a big difference between what the Op Z7 operators wear, and what those staff wear, disregarding the lumping in of the Endmin into that mix.

I'm not going to bother with the Rhodes Island uniform because I don't play the OG Arknights.

BUR #54486 has been approved by @evazion.

deprecate endfield_uniform

People_of_the_Book said in forum #417181:

(+1) How about deprecating it instead?

Here's a deprecation BUR. We should make a separate tag for the staffs' uniforms at some point (though there's probably 0 images of them at the moment).

Edit: Not sure of the utility of a uniform tag for the operators, since it seems the "uniform" is only worn by Z7, so it's tantamount to searching fluorite_(arknights) or estella_(arknights) or akekuri_(arknights) or antal_(arknights) or catcher_(arknights). Plus, it's not like it's a uniform uniform, so to speak.

Or we can create another tag called endfield_clothes to contain the endministrator's jacket ,perlica's jacket, chen's jacket, endfield_uniform, and any future characters if applicable.

Since most artists will skip details like endfield_industries_logo and the text "endfield"

thefoxne said in forum #418481:

Or we can create another tag called endfield_clothes to contain the endministrator's jacket

We often synonymize clothes and uniform (and costume) together, so that wouldn't be helpful. You need a narrower term than just 'Endfield'.

I'm more partial to the nuke than the deprecation. Deprecating the tag is just kicking the can down the road for this exact same discussion anyway that no one will ever deal with and to me it looks like the tag was created without much thought, as though someone thought that we should have a clothing tag for Endfield operators just because Rhodes Island has one without considering that one is relatively consistent and the other isn't. post #10792199 just looks like Fluorite (Arknights) (Cosplay).

Most of these can and should be explained with cosplay tags because the differences in their uniforms are unique enough that they can be specifically attributed to a character rather than attributed to a specific look. Uniform tags are for uniformity, it's in the name, they may alter slightly or moderately between characters but it's not something you associate with one character when you look at it. Stretching the tag to mean "anything worn by an Endfield operator" dilutes its purpose; it becomes a pointless padding tag.

None of these outfits should be put into a single general tag and deprecation just implies that we need to find an alternative to replace the mess someone made because they didn't workshop the tag first before making it when such an alternative doesn't really exist besides maybe group tags (e.g. 3 or more specifically of Akekuri, Catcher, Fluorite, Estella and/or Antal). Though that's straying away from the topic because that's about finding specific groups of people often drawn together rather than what they're wearing.

I would prefer this to be directly erased and for people interested in such a thing to make a favgroup and propose a BUR to tag those instead if they can find something that works for search utility. It's just not something that should've been made without thinking about it first and we shouldn't let it propagate with no resolution.

The bulk update request #54486 (forum #417183) has been approved by @evazion.

It's only 100 posts, it can be manually cleaned out if there are any alternative tags these posts need to be moved to.

The bulk update request #54481 (forum #417167) has been rejected by @nonamethanks.