Deformed and Super Deformed

ANON_TOKYO said in forum #388830:

I agree with forum #245640, I don't think it's feasible to distinguish degrees of chibi-ness. I recognize they're not quite the same exactly, and this does lose some granularity, but I just don't see it working.

I mostly agree with this. There's also the problem of when you want to search for a picture and you can remember that it is deformed but not how deformed then you have to extend your search. I'd guess that not too many users even realize deformed exists as a tag and they only use chibi.

Damian0358 said in forum #410610:

it's very likely already the case that the chibi tag isn't wholly SD.

This is also true as I remember seeing quite a few posts where the characters are only deformed and not SD.

I would want to distinguish between degrees of deformation too but I think that people are so used to lumping everything under chibi that I feel any attempts to distinguishing them will just not work. Unless we force something like deformed (chibi) and super deformed (chibi) so users have no choice but to actually learn the differences.

gzb said in forum #420320:

I would want to distinguish between degrees of deformation too but I think that people are so used to lumping everything under chibi that I feel any attempts to distinguishing them will just not work. Unless we force something like deformed (chibi) and super deformed (chibi) so users have no choice but to actually learn the differences.

There'd be no way you'd be able to convince anyone to change chibi's name, especially when it's over 325k big now.

I think any effort made to distinguish degrees of deformation or chibiness will inevitably require an advanced effort, preparing several tags in advance, ones large enough that they cannot be ignored once they get approved in BUR form. But we can discuss chibi reform or whatever once we finally get deformed (style).

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remove alias super_deformed -> chibi
create alias super_deformed -> extreme_chibi
create implication extreme_chibi -> chibi

Here's my proposal for trying to have subtags. If we go with this, I will approve the alias deformed -> chibi.

The problem is that chibi IS deformed, and deformed IS chibi. If we want subtypes, we need to come up with good names and good criteria to distinguish them, so that it doesn't become a torture to distinguish them, and they need to be under the same tag.

For extreme chibi, I would say a good definition would be "head bigger than the rest of the body".

If we really want to, we can come up with other distinct degrees of chibi, such as "slightly chibi" for when the proportions are still the same but not quite (post #136389), or "half-chibi", where the body is normal but the head is deformed (post #11064640), but the important part is that we have a single way to search for it.

Feel free to create a favgroup for these ideas or others you can think of, if you think there's merit in them/are interested in it.

I'm going to upvote, but I still disagree with aliasing deformed as is to chibi. That's just ultimately going to result in someone making a BUR requesting it be unaliased and deprecated because deformed is ambiguous in English. You yourself have acknowledged how it reads ambiguously relative to disfigured on the Discord!

gzb said in forum #420320:

Unless we force something like deformed (chibi) and super deformed (chibi) so users have no choice but to actually learn the differences.

At least do deformed_(chibi) in this case.

All chibi are deformed, there's no ambiguity there. That's why I am proposing aliases to the subvariants, so that if someone ever types "deformed", they will be presented with, in this case, both "chibi" and "extreme chibi", and maybe that will make them think about which tag to correctly use.