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Satan-Sama said:
I wanted to upload this image, but I'm not sure, if this vtuber is an artist or uses AI, can I get a second opinion on this one?
https://twitter.com/saku_mitsuki_39/status/1760148242992636068
AI, see botched attempt at a pentagram, hair strands and their shadows on the skin merging into one, overall very melty lineart.
Dannk said:
shark_lj I can't see any ai fuckery in these images. leading me to believe they are assisted to whatever degree.
Allowing ai images to pass the que if they "look good enough to pass" is going to be a minefield for approvers. where, even if it looks good, if it gets flagged or it's pending, no one is going to be willing to touch it if there's even a slight suspicion.
I completely agree. No one wants to routinely approve things that will just get repeatedly flagged. The de facto conditions are that ai-assisted art has to have zero perceptible artifacts to pass the queue and avoid getting flagged. I sympathize with this to a certain degree, because models and lora have improved so much that you can have 100% ai-generated art that has next to no obvious defects. However, as long as some degree of AI is permitted, there needs to be a line drawn, and that line is very clearly not agreed upon.
Eurekaaaaaa said:
It's hard to see at a glance, but the artifacts are still there
https://files.catbox.moe/m2b6wn.jpg
Case and point. Not all approvers can take the time and have the perception to find all these minor (and some are still completely inperceptible imo) ai-artifacts when looking through the modqueue. If this level of defect is considered sufficient for labeling images as 100% ai-generated and flagging previously and future approved ai-assisted images, then why would any approver at all touch ai-assisted images?
pigsir13152, various degrees of AI usage, but some strike me as ai-assisted instead of being fully generated.
岩戸鈴芽 said:
pigsir13152, various degrees of AI usage, but some strike me as ai-assisted instead of being fully generated.
Looks like AI-redraw/traced
Rhaizen said:
AI-generated isn't allowed on the site ? Just to make sure...
No, it's not, see help:upload rules.
santander said:
That looks very hand-drawn to me. Was there something that made you suspicious about it?
santander said:
GreyOmega said:
Not familiar with the attire from the series but is the way the shirt collar bends over and forms antenna-like projections normal?
just another mistake that every artists can make I think, You shouldn't use unusual things as a sign of AI, Human artists can also make mistakes or weird decisions
If you're curious about whether the image is AI-generated, it might be helpful to understand the common traits / artifacts seen in AI-generated images .
(For me, the eyes and hair are always the easiest giveaway)
santander said:
I thought the ear and right hand looked a bit deformed?
Humans make mistakes too, quite a lot of them in fact. Simple errors or odd-looking bodyparts (especially more challenging ones like ears) are bound to have some mistakes, there aren't at all an indication of AI.
岩戸鈴芽 said:
Humans make mistakes too, quite a lot of them in fact. Simple errors or odd-looking bodyparts (especially more challenging ones like ears) are bound to have some mistakes, there aren't at all an indication of AI.
The question is more...why are these poorly drawn? Because of lacking skill, to put it bluntly, or because the AI messed up several lines or other flaws on the groundwork level?
Provence said:
The question is more...why are these poorly drawn? Because of lacking skill, to put it bluntly, or because the AI messed up several lines or other flaws on the groundwork level?
The way they're drawn looks in-line with the linework elsewhere in the picture, I agree with SA that this looks very hand-drawn.
Someone tagged post #7255417 as AI-generated, but I don't see anything that implicates the artist uses AI to draw anything, but I could be wrong.
Death_Usagi said:
Someone tagged post #7255417 as AI-generated, but I don't see anything that implicates the artist uses AI to draw anything, but I could be wrong.
Looking at the track record here, the rest of this "artist"'s posts are deleted for being AI. I have no reason to suspect this one ain't the same.
Well, okay, that's kinda a lie: If you zoom in, you can see hints of brush strokes that I don't think too many of our actual regularly deleted AI posts have, nor am I seeing anything that immediately screams AI. That's not a strict "it's not AI", but I do think this is a post worth checking by someone much better at spotting AI than I am.
Death_Usagi said:
Someone tagged post #7255417 as AI-generated, but I don't see anything that implicates the artist uses AI to draw anything, but I could be wrong.
I'm the one who tagged it
https://files.catbox.moe/8usksm.png
there's some artifacts that make me think it's AI, like the way eyeslash bleeding into eyelids's line, the hair
They might have hand-fixed it, but I still think it's mostly AI
If you check other stuff on their Pixiv, it's pretty clear that all of their posts are AI-generated.
For example,
this one https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/114616993 - The hair disappeared on the top area of the glasses
Salome's hands on https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/115108685
I can't pinpoint which artist they use for other images but it might be mixed between multiple artists
Updated by Eurekaaaaaa
Maiden_in_Orange said:
Looking at the track record here, the rest of this "artist"'s posts are deleted for being AI. I have no reason to suspect this one ain't the same.
Well, okay, that's kinda a lie: If you zoom in, you can see hints of brush strokes that I don't think too many of our actual regularly deleted AI posts have, nor am I seeing anything that immediately screams AI. That's not a strict "it's not AI", but I do think this is a post worth checking by someone much better at spotting AI than I am.
This track record along with this one looking basically the same was also mainly what lead me to disapprove it. Even if it's assisted, in my opinion it's too AI to pass.
Eurekaaaaaa said:
I'm the one who tagged it
https://files.catbox.moe/8usksm.png
there's some artifacts that make me think it's AI, like the way eyeslash bleeding into eyelids's line, the hair
They might have hand-fixed it, but I still think it's mostly AIIf you check other stuff on their Pixiv, it's pretty clear that all of their posts are AI-generated.
For example,
this one https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/114616993 - The hair disappeared on the top area of the glasses
Salome's hands on https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/115108685
I can't pinpoint which artist they use for other images but it might be mixed between multiple artists
Okay thank you.
