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BUR #9369 has been approved by @evazion.
create alias okita_souji_(alter_swimsuit_saber)_(fate) -> okita_souji_alter_(swimsuit_saber)_(fate)
create implication okita_souji_alter_(swimsuit_saber)_(fate) -> okita_souji_(fate)
Well let's give this a try, since evazion approved the BUR in topic #20729.
EDIT: Dangit, had to fix the implication to make it flat rather than nested.
EDIT 2: Had to add the unalias as well. Damn, what a mess.
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blindVigil said:
Can we not change Artoria to Saber? It's annoying enough that several Artorias aren't grouped with the rest because we insist on calling them Saber.
The Artoria tags should really be handled separately, because they're a mess.
After making the request, I had been thinking that maybe it wasn't the best idea. Then we're going to have something like artoria_pendragon_(lancer)_(swimsuit_ruler)_(fate), and that isn't going to go over very well. I'm going to sleep on it for tonight though and see what others think.
Maybe I'm desensitized about spoilers for being a fan since way back when. IIRC Saber's true name is implied by the Excalibur and other things, but never revealed in most routes, except in the middle of Fate/Stay Night's plot, which focus on her.
For me at least, calling them Saber is counterintuitive, including the actual saber class, especially nowadays with the growth of the franchise and how you're quickly introduced to most servant names. People have heated discussions about officially calling them Altria or Artoria instead. With Archer, I automatically type EMIYA when I want to search or tag.
EDIT: But yeah, Idk what to do with the big tags.
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Personally the only spoiler tag I really care about keeping is Archer because his identity is a pivotal plot point, the others don't really matter even if the names aren't stated at first. Saber being Artoria Pendragon isn't a fundamental plot point of Stay Night, it's just something that is withheld at first and revealed later on - Archer's identity on the other hand is essentially what the whole UBW anime is about.
That said, there's still a very prevalent part of the community that continues calling Saber and Saber Alter this way even now that there are a trillion different Sabers in Fate, they're kind of grandfathered names for them by now and it'd almost feel weird to see Saber tagged as Artoria Pendragon (Saber) (Fate) or something. I dunno, Artoria is a can of worms even worse than Jeanne.
I share Astolfo's point of view except the last point. Both leaving the tag as Saber and changing it to Artoria has pros and cons. If we want to make something clean, especially because the spoiler point is null since saber implies artoria_pendragon_(fate) anyways, i think Artoria is better. The tag will be long, but it will be more orderly and look better near the other artoria tags. Plus you can alias saber to it similarly to Mordred and Nero.
The bulk update request #9369 (forum #208106) has been approved by @evazion.
