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[APPROVED] Swedish weapons tag gardening

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BUR #2071 has been approved by @Hillside_Moose.

create alias ak-5 -> ak_5
create implication ak_5 -> fn_fnc
mass update ak5_(girls_frontline) -> char:ak_5_(girls_frontline)
create alias carl_gustav_m/45 -> carl_gustaf_m/45
create implication carl_gustaf_m/45 -> submachine_gun
create alias m3_maaws -> carl_gustaf_recoilless_rifle
create implication carl_gustaf_recoilless_rifle -> recoilless_rifle
create alias bofors_gun -> bofors_40_mm_gun
create implication bofors_40_mm_gun -> autocannon

Reason: The tag ak-5 has been used for the Swedish version of FN FNC, but that's not how the weapon is designated. It's designated Ak 5 (with a space, not a dash) and the tag should be changed to match that.

The character based on the weapon is also wrongly tagged as ak5_(girls_frontline), even though she has the correct designation in the game.

Ak 5 has some distinct visual differences from the original FN FNC, but it's still highly likely that anyone searching for FN FNC would like to see its variants as well. Therefore I suggest that Ak 5 should imply FN FNC. That way Ak 5 would also by extension imply assault_rifle.

I recently made a request to rename the tag m45 on the forum which was approved (topic #16257). But Carl_Gustav_m/45 should be spelled "Gustaf", because the weapon is named after its manufacturer Carl Gustafs Stads Gevärsfaktori.

Carl Gustaf m/45 should of course imply submachine_gun, because it's a submachine gun.

I recently added the tag Carl_Gustaf_recoilless_rifle and as the name implies it should imply recoilless_rifle.

There's currently a tag m3_maaws which is the US name for the Carl Gustaf recoilless rifle. It should be aliased to the internationally recognized name.

bofors_gun is a somewhat ambiguous tag, because Bofors has made many different types of cannons. However, all four posts currently tagged with it has the 40 mm autocannon, therefore I want to rename it with the more specific name "Bofors 40 mm gun".

Bofors 40 mm gun should implicate autocannon, because it's an autocannon.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2071 (forum #158881) has been approved by @Hillside_Moose.

Updated by DanbooruBot

Hillside_Moose said:

Why would you implicate bofors_gun to autocannon, only to empty it out into bofors_40_mm_gun? It makes no sense.

As for the ak-5 -> fn_fnc implication, it doesn't seem like a good idea to implicate a gun to another gun, not when it deviated from its base enough to get its own name.

Because doing it the other way around is not possible. You cannot implicate a tag that doesn't exist yet. The script editor doesn't realize that the tag has been created in the same script.

Almost EVERY nation has their own weapon designations. It has nothing to do with whether or not the weapon has been modified. Take the Carl Gustaf recoilless rifle for example: in USA it's designated as M3 MAAWS and in Sweden it's designated as Grg m/48, yet there's no difference between them other than what language the instructions are printed in. Keep in mind that FN FNC is the factory's name for the weapon and Ak 5 is the Swedish armed forces' name for it. The visual differences between FN FNC and Ak 5 are distinct but still minor, like a larger hand guard and trigger guard to accommodate for thicker winter gloves and a different colour, and the mechanical differences are minor as well, with the removal of the burst mode for example. None of this makes a major difference on the appearance or functionality of the weapon and putting them next to each other you can see that an Ak 5 is without a doubt an FN FNC. I still think it's a good idea to make the implication because people looking for the base weapon are very likely to be interested in its variations. However, someone looking for Ak 5 specifically might not be interested in other versions of FN FNC, so aliasing them is probably not a good idea.

Kapten-N said:

Because doing it the other way around is not possible. You cannot implicate a tag that doesn't exist yet. The script editor doesn't realize that the tag has been created in the same script.

Your methodology changes nothing aside from adding vestigial implications to empty tags. Looking at the way you ordered the BUR, I get the impression you think the system will process the request in order line-by-line; in reality, the system does whatever it wants.

That's fine, I've corrected the BUR, as well as changed the mass edits to aliases so the older tags don't get repopulated.

Hillside_Moose said:

Your methodology changes nothing aside from adding vestigial implications to empty tags. Looking at the way you ordered the BUR, I get the impression you think the system will process the request in order line-by-line; in reality, the system does whatever it wants.

That's fine, I've corrected the BUR, as well as changed the mass edits to aliases so the older tags don't get repopulated.

I tried doing it the other way around but it wouldn't let me.

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