I would really like to be able to pay with credit card... or wire transfer (though that might lave a trace...)
I must say.. i would't feel save sending money by mail..
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accRei said:
I would really like to be able to pay with credit card... or wire transfer (though that might lave a trace...)
I must say.. i would't feel save sending money by mail..
If it's a check, there shouldn't be a problem. People send checks in the mail all the time. Cash through the mail would be retarded though.
Ok, I think every question has been answered about this topic except two:
How are we going to pay? and
Are current privileged users/contributers/janitors/mods not going to have to pay?
I can easily send you a check, for those out of the country, I hope CCBill works, but hopefully it's not too complicated and could be easily added to the site.
If it's a one time fee, I think everyone should have to pay. I don't think it was exactly specified who's paying, but I'd like to know.
Any of those lucky privileged users who don't do shit around here are exempted from paying? We've all seen a few of those who are privileged and have 0 uploads, 0 tag edits, 0 comments, and 0 forum posts. There have been a few topics here specifically for them. Are these guys seriously not going to have to pay just because they know someone who knows someone?
It's retarded because it could get stolen, and you'd have no recourse. It's less likely that a stolen check would get cashed, and if it did you could take it up with the bank. I suppose if you didn't have a checking account you could go with cash, but given the choice, a check would make more sense.
you know, albert...
you could probably get away with using paypal. dovac over at moe.imouto.org asks for donations every once in a while and just uses a paypal link that he doesn't host on the danbooru site. see: http://moe.imouto.org/forum/show/1627, http://www.imouto.org/?page_id=19. and there's tons of explicit stuff on moe.imouto.org.
well, not that i'm endorsing breaking the law, but it's not anyone would ever find out or care.
then again, paypal sucks (huge fees and whatnot)... so yeah. I'm just saying.
Paypal is definitely a no-go. nothing even remotely considered pornographic is allowed.
I'd still look into Amazon Honor System, since y!Galley uses it, and they're an adult-oriented website; all the adult content is blocked from non-members on it, which may be the reason they've been allowed into it.
MM23 said:
you know, albert...you could probably get away with using paypal.
I realize I could be discrete about it, but I only have one Paypal account and I use it heavily for legitimate stuff. The last thing I need is to have it get shut down. I guess I could set up a secondary bank account for Paypal, but that's a lot of work.
Kwik said: How are we going to pay?
Albert is still working this out but earlier he said "- I'll open a PO box and ask for checks/money orders if you want to upgrade your account to privileged status. The fee will be a one time $20. I will not accept credit cards unless enough people ask."
Are current privileged users/contributers/janitors/mods not going to have to pay?
No, all such users will be grandfathered in to their current positions. Additionally, there will still be a "free" path to upgrades via contributing, as there has always been. Payment is for those who want privileged (note, not contributor) but don't want to work for it. Or just people who want to support the site.
I don't think it was exactly specified who's paying, but I'd like to know.
Again, this has all been discussed. Anyone who wants to is who will pay. Those who already have an elevated account level don't need to pay.
There have been a few topics here specifically for them. Are these guys seriously not going to have to pay just because they know someone who knows someone?
Better question is, how many of them actively use the site anyway? If they were invited a long time ago, so what, ignore them and worry about yourself. I doubt too many people like this have been invited lately. The majority would be from awhile back, even so far back as when the site was invite only for ANY access. Remember, danbooru today is very different than danbooru just a year ago. Or was it more like 6 months...
sakami-chan said:
I would pay the money if I didn't have to see the ads anymore. Sorry, but I really don't like seeing boobs'n'butts when I am looking up chibi and such. (But I understand they pay for server costs!) I use Danbooru because I enjoy looking at pretty pictures and to find references when I draw.So a one time payment of $20 sounds rather fair to get no ads atleast. AND, if people don't like using their credit cards, a very good alternative would be get one of those credit card gift cards. They can be charged like a credit card, and there isn't there isn't a paper trail (for those who worry,) right?
Using #4585 as the basis which privileged accounts are defined, I don't think that paying justifies people getting having no upload limit or bypassing mod approval only because people may post spam. Maybe a higher upload limit and uploads at the top of the approval queue would be fair. After all privileged account is gained through merit and if that people worked for it, they can be trusted to be responsible.
By the way, is it necessary to limit favorites? I admit I am one of the .3% that I have over 1000 favs, but I don't go through them often, so I don't eat up a ton bandwidth by going through them ><; I just happen to like a lot of pictures...
I have to agree that being assaulted by adds at the top and bottom of every page doe get old fact and i would definitely pay $20 to get away from that. Specially if they accepted paypal to make the transaction more simple
Another option is always just open a donation account that is unaffiliated with danbooru and just tell people to send the money to it. not exactly legit but then again paypal's rules aren't exactly either. Anyone in there right mind wouldnt ban adult content and just charge you more per transaction. in any case if th account was seperate and legit there is no way to link it unless someone yells foul.
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I really would have only one question and that is will normal non privileged users be limited more or just the ones that are anonymous?
When the consensus is in on how much it will cost and where to send it will there be an FAQ update to reflect the new change? Unless i missed it i didn't see a finalized version.
jxh2154 said:
Albert is still working this out but earlier he said "- I'll open a PO box and ask for checks/money orders if you want to upgrade your account to privileged status. The fee will be a one time $20. I will not accept credit cards unless enough people ask."
Thanks. I was just throwing the first question out there though. Your right though, not much to worry about those who don't use the site. Also for those that have worked hard to contribute to get a free pass.
I'm wondering, why would an international money order be a problem? I've heard that a "foreign currency draft" is a better choice, or the only one in some countries. Anyone know anything about that? I've sent a bunch of money orders from Canada to the US and it cost only the exchange rate + $5. If it's not that easy for some other folks I bet they'd appreciate hearing about another way.
Also, is $20 really for a lifetime "subscription" so to speak, for the site? If that means we could abuse the server as much as we want I doubt $20 would cover it, once a lot of people sign up. It depends on how much people use the site at once though. If the site is made up of like 80% casual browsers then it probably wouldn't be an issue. On threaded imageboards I think heavy users are more of a concern.
My personal view on a reasonable cost would be $10-15 dollars for 6 months. And $20-30 for a year or more. I'd be happy with that, but it might complicate things to have more than the one option. And $20 seems very fair.
I think it'd be nice (for ease of use) to have a set of options you can turn on and off when you do become a "contributer." For example:
Loli: on/off
Ads: on/off
I'm not too sure I like the idea of buying privileged uploading... privileges. Although it's very tempting, in my opinion Danbooru already has too many average or low quality uploads everyday. If users can flood as much as they want, and only the terrible ones get deleted, it'll be worse than it is now. The overall quality will drop. That's just my view though.
About the other issues, limiting free/registered users to the first 10 pages sounds like a big handicap (unless I'm mistaken about that). I quite like my free account as it is, so long as the "Take it easy" messages aren't on every single thumbnail page.
And in case one more opinion about all this matters, I'd probably pay the $20 just to browse with a free conscience. I could go on downloading sprees when I want, like I do every few weeks to build up collections. I enjoy giving out those collections in the form of zips to new folks who go around 4chan and such looking for a certain character, series or theme. Danbooru's so organized that it's the best place for it.
I also wouldn't have to worry about the ads (though turning them back on on days when I feel like helping out that extra little bit would be good).
homeless_homo said: If this payment thing passes, instead of them getting "privileged" status, I think they should receive something like "Donator".
That's basically what privileged status is, now. Contributor is what privileged previously was. The change was made to accommodate exactly this.