It would've been cooler if you used Danbooru posts.
Posted under General
...then why the fuck are you flagging posts you can't prove are AI-generated and trying to reach using old deleted posts? This is exactly what I meant by what I said in forum #399405 about generalising an artist's entire profile off of irrelevant content. Posts are judged on their own merits, and unless there's proof that a profile only uploads AI-generated content, then each post you're accusing of being generated needs something to back up the claim. You can't just go tagging and flagging at random for it.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=dr._junyaman&z=1
post #10226878
It appears that this artist's body of work was created using AI-generated images as a draft.
If you look closely at the distorted line art sections, in addition to the common AI-style posing and lighting, it becomes clear that these are traced works derived from AI-generated source material.
WRS said:
...then why the fuck are you flagging posts you can't prove are AI-generated and trying to reach using old deleted posts? This is exactly what I meant by what I said in forum #399405 about generalising an artist's entire profile off of irrelevant content. Posts are judged on their own merits, and unless there's proof that a profile only uploads AI-generated content, then each post you're accusing of being generated needs something to back up the claim. You can't just go tagging and flagging at random for it.
Its clear history of AI use, and the clear use of delineator filters, seem to me to be sufficient proof to label it as an AI-created product.
whiteloveit said:
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=dr._junyaman&z=1
post #10226878It appears that this artist's body of work was created using AI-generated images as a draft.
If you look closely at the distorted line art sections, in addition to the common AI-style posing and lighting, it becomes clear that these are traced works derived from AI-generated source material.
I agree... you can see the shape of the stroke, it's tracing and layer cut painting
Ailook said:
Its clear history of AI use, and the clear use of delineator filters, seem to me to be sufficient proof to label it as an AI-created product.
Old pics and use of filters is not even remotely sufficient. You need to show actual indication the posts being tagged and flagged are AI, this is not optional.
Also, tracing AI is allowed, and would merely be ai-assisted.
Updated by ANON TOKYO
ANON_TOKYO said:
Old pics and use of filters is not even remotely sufficient. You need to show actual indication the posts being tagged and flagged are AI, this is not optional.
Also, tracing AI is allowed, and would merely be ai-assisted.
so should be tagged like ai-assited?
Ailook said:
so should be tagged like ai-assited?
Okay, you are definitely missing the point here, in that you are operating off mere hunch as opposed to actually actively backing up your claims.
Either actually give us proof, or knock it off. Baseless accusations are far worse than letting something slip past the radar for a time.
Knowledge_Seeker said:
Okay, you are definitely missing the point here, in that you are operating off mere hunch as opposed to actually actively backing up your claims.
Either actually give us proof, or knock it off. Baseless accusations are far worse than letting something slip past the radar for a time.
And what exactly constitutes proof for you? If having a clear history of AI use and lacking consistency evolution in his works are not? Now that AIs no longer make such obvious mistakes as hands, for an AI scammer it's simple: just simplify the style and edit a little. This means you're easily fooled.
ANON TOKYO deleted the wiki of buronjin who was previus named bronzeerectile, all his work was deleted because ai generated.
Updated by user 1452122
Ailook said:
If having a clear history of AI use
Your "clear" is incredibly vague.
and lacking consistency evolution in his
Someone's artstyle evolving (or not evolving) is no proof.
ANON TOKYO deleted the wiki of buronjin who was previus named bronzeerectile, all his work was deleted because ai generated.
Because they were made without sufficient proof. These are not light accusations, so going off a hunch (or in your case, a poor understanding of what is and isn't proof of AI) is not sufficient to make such blanket statements.
Ailook said:
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=11100823
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10505643old artworks he delete where the ai details where more obvious. you can even see how the artstyle is no consise, and yes a constant change on style in short times, is a proof of change in the Prompt model used to generate the pics
this crown and hand looks like sooo ai for me, a clear ai use history and buronjin was already deleted .. that are no proof are facts, you looks like someone in negation
I will only repeat myself once: Knock. It. Off.
So far, you have completely failed to prove your points, with said "points" only being "it looks like AI" and "Art style is inconsistent" where I need to remind people here that AI is trained on specific popular styles, so that "AI look" very well could be an artist's natural style. Also, the fact that you are resorting to Rule 34 as opposed to actual Danbooru posts or properly sourced does not inspire me with a great load of confidence, as it gives me the image of you scrounging for points.
Please stop trying to push this narrative when your accusations are clearly very baseless, and most importantly stop trying to edit artist pages and posts to push your accusations when you have done nothing to back them up. If you keep going, I believe that'd be grounds for a negative feedback and further action against your account.
This guy said a lot about how they created their works based on AI-generated works so I guess at least some of them should be AI-assisted but not AI-generated.
https://x.com/honkibooty/status/1963027770205974983
https://x.com/honkibooty/status/1943002676280606767
https://x.com/honkibooty/status/1942789224102506647
https://x.com/honkibooty/status/1822740119377351157
Knowledge_Seeker said:
I will only repeat myself once: Knock. It. Off.
So far, you have completely failed to prove your points, with said "points" only being "it looks like AI" and "Art style is inconsistent" where I need to remind people here that AI is trained on specific popular styles, so that "AI look" very well could be an artist's natural style. Also, the fact that you are resorting to Rule 34 as opposed to actual Danbooru posts or properly sourced does not inspire me with a great load of confidence, as it gives me the image of you scrounging for points.
Got it, lets make it simple, no more "looks like" is AI, https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10505643 a hand with 6 fingers holding a clear ai generated cash.
i take you point, You don't trust an R34 link, even though the post clearly has the source to piutahayo's tweet. how surprise post #7705780 this one and in this own site, the clear AI generated measuring tape. what have in comon? Both have their respective sources for piutahayo's tweet, but both posts were deleted because they exposed his use of AI.
why are these accounts dedicated to "looking for ai" so incapable of reading man, immediately posts a rule34 link again instead of trying point out issues based on actual active danbooru posts and completely cherry picks everyone's posts while ignoring the parts they don't want to hear, and end up shitting up the topic past the rim, as if they weren't already told what the problem with r34 links was. if your job is to be as frustrating as possible instead of engaging in good faith, reasonable discussion, congratulations, you got what you wanted by annoying the fuck out of all of us and made this more difficult than it needed to be
I hate this topic. It always emboldens the worst kinds of people and its value is severely reduced whenever this happens every few weeks or months.
eromelon said:
This guy said a lot about how they created their works based on AI-generated works so I guess at least some of them should be AI-assisted but not AI-generated.
I agree with this. post #8792444 doesn't even look like their work, it looks like kairunoburogu's. I don't remember who's style it is but post #8857342 as well. post #7675555 has quite a few lingering artifacts in the hair and focus of the image. Other than that some of those have some really wacky anatomy like post #9304932 that I would flag even if they weren't AI. This is consistent for basically everything that's been uploaded. Above all else, they themselves said they use AI as a base, which is more than enough to qualify for AI-assisted at the minimum.
Updated by WRS
I think they're probably exaggerating the amount of actual hand work that goes into their "art", given the output frequency and amount of shit they have that's clearly generated from the same prompt with the character swapped out. But if claiming as much is enough to qualify as "ai-assisted", then whatever.
WRS said:
I hate this topic. It always emboldens the worst kinds of people and its value is severely reduced whenever this happens every few weeks or months.
Tell me about it. The more random members decide to fucking pull this shit, the less valuable this topic becomes and the more it becomes a pointless blame game. I have no idea what the solution would be, but there has to be a better idea than this.
(Tempted to propose making this topic Builder+, but that's an extreme step, and unfair to the members who actually are trying to be useful and not just witch hunt random artists.)
Knowledge_Seeker said:
Tempted to propose making this topic Builder+, but that's an extreme step, and unfair to the members who actually are trying to be useful and not just witch hunt random artists.
That could also restrict people from checking new art they find outside of Danbooru, though such checks don’t account for a large percentage of activity here. If this topic becomes builder+, maybe split off a new unrestricted topic solely for double-checking art people want to post to make sure it doesn’t break site rules.
Updated by Placeholder1996