I lost my rank (over what in my opinion was complete bullshit but I digress), how would I get it back?
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HyphenSam said:
If you aren't willing to learn from your mistakes, then it is unlikely for you to regain your previous rank. Judging by what you said here, I don't think you've learnt anything if you still believe it's "complete bullshit".
To answer the question I lost it over a few (like 3) BUR mistakes, and the mod says I "cause only issues" despite making plenty of legitimate BURs (well these were intended as legitimate, I just made a mistake, IE the last one was letting auto-translate translate an artist's name, and it turned out to be the wrong language (Detected it as Japanese instead of Chinese).
Let's not pretend that making pointless and straight up wrong BURs was the only reason, although it was indeed a player. You were already told exactly why you were demoted (forum #356397) so you really shouldn't try and avoid the details if your intent is to gain empathy points. Don't leave out the parts where you tanked your own upload ratio beyond an acceptable level for a Builder and called other users troons in the forum.
Witch-Hunter-Siegfried said:
To answer the question I lost it over a few (like 3) BUR mistakes, and the mod says I "cause only issues" despite making plenty of legitimate BURs (well these were intended as legitimate, I just made a mistake, IE the last one was letting auto-translate translate an artist's name, and it turned out to be the wrong language (Detected it as Japanese instead of Chinese).
The fact that you made a sock to bypass your upload limit is also probably not going to help you much in terms of being considered for re-promotion. (And the fact that you didn't even catch that the BUR had a conflicting tag in place until I pointed it out is kinda nuts, do you not look at your submitted BURs at all after hitting publish? I always do to catch typos and unexpected tag conflicts like that one.)
Updated by Ylimegirl
Ylimegirl said:
The fact that you made a sock to bypass your upload limit is also probably not going to help you much in terms of being considered for re-promotion. (And the fact that you didn't even catch that the BUR had a conflicting tag in place until I pointed it out is kinda nuts, do you not look at your submitted BURs at all after hitting publish? I always do to catch typos and unexpected tag conflicts like that one.)
To answer the question especially after loosing the rank especially I was of the mind this account is FUBAR, so wanted a new start, would be easier, Notice I wasn’t switching between the 2 nor filled this one up before hand, As for the BUR yes it was a mistake, I confess just think the punishment was far too harsh.
Witch-Hunter-Siegfried said:
To answer the question I lost it over a few (like 3) BUR mistakes, and the mod says I "cause only issues" despite making plenty of legitimate BURs (well these were intended as legitimate, I just made a mistake, IE the last one was letting auto-translate translate an artist's name, and it turned out to be the wrong language (Detected it as Japanese instead of Chinese).
Disregarding that your "BUR mistakes" were not the reason you were demoted, so much as the last straw in a pretty damning list of reasons, the fact you thought relying on machine translation to rename an artist was acceptable, and couldn't even be bothered to make sure it was translating the right language, is certainly not a sign of someone that can be trusted to use the tools accessible to Builders responsibly. Hell, even now you've still mixed up what the problem was. The artist is Japanese, the auto-detector thought the name was Chinese.
blindVigil said:
Disregarding that your "BUR mistakes" were not the reason you were demoted, so much as the last straw in a pretty damning list of reasons, the fact you thought relying on machine translation to rename an artist was acceptable, and couldn't even be bothered to make sure it was translating the right language, is certainly not a sign of someone that can be trusted to use the tools accessible to Builders responsibly. Hell, even now you've still mixed up what the problem was. The artist is Japanese, the auto-detector thought the name was Chinese.
IK that I was there lmao, I fucked up, was trying to change he name quick and didn’t realize and just trusted what my thingies machine translation gave me, again I don’t deny it was a mistake.
(Edit: being a name I just wanted it in Latin characters obviously)
Witch-Hunter-Siegfried said:
To answer the question especially after loosing the rank especially I was of the mind this account is FUBAR, so wanted a new start, would be easier
If you really wanted to start all over again, why not deleting your account, waiting a few months for the things to calm down a bit, and then create the new account? Come on man, creating sock puppets is against the ToS of the site and The Community Rules. As a Builder with experience, you should know this better than the average newbie in the site.
InsomniacTwin said:
If you really wanted to start all over again, why not deleting your account, waiting a few months for the things to calm down a bit, and then create the new account? Come on man, creating sock puppets is against the ToS of the site and The Community Rules. As a Builder with experience, you should know this better than the average newbie in the site.
I had no clue you could delete your account at all TBH, know on some similar sites you can’t so assumed it was the same here.
Witch-Hunter-Siegfried said:
I had no clue you could delete your account at all TBH, know on some similar sites you can’t so assumed it was the same here.
Your mistake was assuming such function didn't existed in the first place, which once again, is surprising considering you had experience with the site and its functions to a deeper level.
InsomniacTwin said:
Your mistake was assuming such function didn't existed in the first place, which once again, is surprising considering you had experience with the site and its functions to a deeper level.
I didn’t dig around in the settings to find something I was pretty sure didn’t exist as an option, aside from an outside standpoint what’s the distinction between deleting this account and orphaning it?
Witch-Hunter-Siegfried said:
To answer the question especially after loosing the rank especially I was of the mind this account is FUBAR, so wanted a new start, would be easier, Notice I wasn’t switching between the 2 nor filled this one up before hand, As for the BUR yes it was a mistake, I confess just think the punishment was far too harsh.
You uploaded 16 posts in one day with that account, and only 6 of them got approved. The limit on your main account is 5. Just because you didn't have any pending uploads on your main account doesn't mean you weren't very definitely bypassing your upload limit with a second account.
A new account wouldn't have erased your mistakes, anyway.
Witch-Hunter-Siegfried said:
IK that I was there lmao, I fucked up, was trying to change he name quick and didn’t realize and just trusted what my thingies machine translation gave me, again I don’t deny it was a mistake.
(Edit: being a name I just wanted it in Latin characters obviously)
Repeatedly calling it a "thingy" isn't helping your case, imo. All this thread is proving is that you haven't reflected on what you've done wrong at all, and are too impatient to do things the right way.
blindVigil said:
You uploaded 16 posts in one day with that account, and only 6 of them got approved. The limit on your main account is 5. Just because you didn't have any pending uploads on your main account doesn't mean you weren't very definitely bypassing your upload limit with a second account.
A new account wouldn't have erased your mistakes, anyway.
Repeatedly calling it a "thingy" isn't helping your case, imo. All this thread is proving is that you haven't reflected on what you've done wrong at all, and are too impatient to do things the right way.
The Ipad’s auto translate function, there. And A G A I N I know those faulty BUR’s were a mistake and I never said otherwise.
Witch-Hunter-Siegfried said:
what’s the distinction between deleting this account and orphaning it?
The difference is by deleting your account you delete also all your data, and with enough time, you can have the chance to start all over again, which was exactly what you wanted. If you leave an account abandoned, Mods and Admins are going to track you down again, and given your previous history, that wouldn't help your case.
InsomniacTwin said:
The difference is by deleting your account you delete also all your data, and with enough time, you can have the chance to start all over again, which was exactly what you wanted. If you leave an account abandoned, Mods and Admins are going to track you down again, and given your previous history, that wouldn't help your case.
To be fair, I didn’t take too much effort, fucking with the citadel tags was a immediate giveaway lol. But yes, had I known it was option I would have and now that I do I probably will
Witch-Hunter-Siegfried said:
To be fair, I didn’t take too much effort, fucking with the citadel tags was a immediate giveaway lol. But yes, had I known it was option I would have and now that I do I probably will
I fail to understand what I’m not understanding here, I admitted those 3 BURs were fuck ups on my end, I was just explaining the “why” that one happened
InsomniacTwin said:
If you really wanted to start all over again, why not deleting your account, waiting a few months for the things to calm down a bit, and then create the new account? Come on man, creating sock puppets is against the ToS of the site and The Community Rules. As a Builder with experience, you should know this better than the average newbie in the site.
InsomniacTwin said:
The difference is by deleting your account you delete also all your data, and with enough time, you can have the chance to start all over again, which was exactly what you wanted. If you leave an account abandoned, Mods and Admins are going to track you down again, and given your previous history, that wouldn't help your case.
Having multiple accounts isn't against the rules. Using multiple accounts to bypass user limitations is against the rules. Which is exactly what the ToS and Community Rules say. Several high level users have multiple accounts for various reasons.
Deleting his old account and making a new one wouldn't have done him much good, anyway. Deleting it doesn't get rid of it, and doing so thinking you can fool the Moderators into forgetting your past mistakes is not going to work out well for you. Moderators will know it's him regardless, and it'll be just as hard for him to re-earn his promotion, especially if it looks like he hasn't learned anything.
You're really not giving him the best advice right now. In fact, he's more likely to end up permabanned if he follows your advice, because it'll look like he's doing exactly what you just cited the ToS for: making multiple accounts to bypass user restrictions.