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richie said:
And, in this way, is one of better examples of how existence of contributor user level corrupts danbooru's "quality standards".
Multiple janitors have also approved gaoo images: Not One Of Us, zigzag, dean exia, Saladofstones ...
It's not entirely due to contributors.
CodeKyuubi said:
I think it's too harsh to place blame on the rank alone. Danbooru's love of Touhou also plays a factor. By the way, why'd you put quality standards in quotations? I read it multiple times and it feels like you're being sarcastic about it because of them (Unless that's what you were aiming for.)
Ah - right, I forgot it's Touhou. Seriously.
That changes everything, I reluctantly stand corrected this time being pretty sure that these more than 300+ contrib posts (for 900+ overall) would be accepted anyway, sooner or later.
Doesn't change the fact that I've seen too many times batches of posts evading moderation from typical grey zone category - too bad to believe they'd be accepted in queue (at least not all), too good (and/or too many of them) to bother flagging. This is what I meant by quoting danbooru's quality standards.
Sorry to go off-topic a bit, but Danbooru doesn't actually have any quality standards - it's been said and repeated a thousand times that the approval system is subjective. Hell, it's written in bold in the howto:upload. You'll also notice that mods have asked a countless number of times that the argument "this other post is worse than mine, why is it there" is not brought up in next to every thread where it seemed like it could be. And I guess that no matter how harmfull it might be, contributors will be there unless you somehow find a lot more good janitors - who are, even with a lot of posts being by contributors, seemingly struggling to go trough every post in the approval queue
richie said:
And, in this way, is one of better examples of how existence of contributor user level corrupts danbooru's "quality standards".
I wouldn't say so. Bkub caused a similar shitstorm and albert is the one who approved it again after they got mass deleted.
The approval system is more of a way to efficiently allow massive amounts of really shitty posts that no one wants to die and contributor status usually comes with not being offensively bad.
A bigger issue, rather than contributor uploads, would be janitorial approvals of sub-par works that leads to confusion from uploaders when flagging begins to happen en masse after a good period of consistent acceptance.
Ultimately, the flagging system is a good corrective tool. If an artist tends to be borderline, flag posts that are especially poor and give reasons why you find it poor. People may disagree, but at least there is communication to others on why its viewed as unacceptable.
Saladofstones said:
I wouldn't say so. Bkub caused a similar shitstorm and albert is the one who approved it again after they got mass deleted.
If you wanted to say Bkub is better example of such corruption, then I agree of course.
The approval system is more of a way to efficiently allow massive amounts of really shitty posts that no one wants to die and contributor status usually comes with not being offensively bad.
Yes, I admit most of promoted contributors had to painstakingly get their approvals earlier as normal members. But after that, they are almost free to upload what they want. With close to zero of feedback from community about quality of their posts. And people changes. Heck, even artists' skills are degrading sometimes.
I'm saying almost, because in some really rare cases when they go absolutely too far all ends with some kind of shitstorm.
So, if contributors uploads subpar arts they get either silence or sudden shitstorm, nothing in between. This is sick.
(btw, this also concerns posting janitors and mods)
Anyway, if I understand correctly the only reason why contributors (and to extend all janitors+ too) are bypassing queue is to relieve janitors from their tedious work with flood of posts waiting for approval. On the other hand such close to unconditional license for unmoderated upload leads to problem I'm talking above.
So how about finishing with unconditional licenses for bypassing queue and giving only a partial ones? For example, the best posters would be awarded with 80% of random chance of queue evading per every post. This way, statistically for every 10 posts, 2 of them would be randomly send to mod queue for approval.
To compensate it, the same routine could be applied for other users. Of course with different percentages. Those who are new begin with 0% (all posts into queue), then some proven ones could get 20-80 ratio, then even 40-60 and so on.
All this percentage quota could be clasped by some kind of mathematic formula, which would assign the quotas accordingly to the history and number of accepted/unaccepted posts, similarly to how upload limits works today.
ps. it's highly probable I'll be offline for whole weekend. Sorry in advance for my silence and delayed responses (if such will be neccessary of course)
post #1767326 (Official Art; DVD/BD box 2 exterior)
nanami said:
post #1767326 (Official Art; DVD/BD box 2 exterior)
It looks approved to me. But I'd say that it's the same mention as last time, bad white-balancing. That and that big-ass crease(s).
Am I the only one here who searches for Chiyuri?
post #1769555
post #1769542
Since people are ignoring me...
pixiv #37585726 pixiv #38903765 pixiv #37394819 pixiv #37225829 are the only ones I would even consider on the first seven pages of newest.
edit: maybe pixiv #36700064
Well I guess I appeal this images, because it is being ignored... Despite it is drawn nicely.
T34/38 said:
Well I guess I appeal this images, because it is being ignored... Despite it is drawn nicely.
While I wouldn't necessarily say that those are bad, they're not good either. It looks like the artist hasn't quite figured out how to convey motion yet, and thus the characters look really stiff... the arms and hands don't look very nice either.
post #1803177 and it's children.
Kikimaru said:
I don't understand how posts with a score of +8 or above aren't considered "good enough" for Danbooru.
In the same vein, there's tons of posts with massive negative scores that aren't deleted even when flagged.
The score just means someone that donated $20 to the site voted on it. It has nothing to do with quality.
Kikimaru said:
I don't understand how posts with a score of +8 or above aren't considered "good enough" for Danbooru.
Score doesn't mean a whole lot in regards to quality when 98% of people who can vote aren't Janitors (who are the ones determining what quality is for Danbooru).
If the art is truly horrible that will probably be reflected in its score, but otherwise if it's just mediocre people won't bother downvoting it. Meanwhile it will get favorited by several people (especially if it's porn) giving it a positive score.
Log said:
The face isn't great, tentacles have a pretty limited audience.
Also her spine looks kinda weird to me
