DAMN that was FAST......still waiting for event info here.

It's pretty much the standard for KC events anyway. First map? Go traumatise the nearby submarine boss!

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Those who do send ASW hunter-killer squadrons to keep the Palawan Passage clear for Kurita's Striking Force.

Obligatory OST

Eboreg said:

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Those who do send ASW hunter-killer squadrons to keep the Palawan Passage clear for Kurita's Striking Force.

Meanwhile, in reality, this wound up sinking or crippling 3/4ths of the Atago class (including Kurita's flagship Atago) between two subs that got away, and the last undamaged Atago-class, Choukai, sank from direct cannon fire from a carrier in Taffy-3.

... Leyte was NOT kind to the Atago class. (Well, it was an absolute slaughter all-around, but the Atago class really suffered humiliation in this one.)

Submarine New Hime really can't catch a break in ido's comics.

NWSiaCB said:

Meanwhile, in reality, this wound up sinking or crippling 3/4ths of the Atago class (including Kurita's flagship Atago) between two subs that got away, and the last undamaged Atago-class, Choukai, sank from direct cannon fire from a carrier in Taffy-3.

... Leyte was NOT kind to the Atago class. (Well, it was an absolute slaughter all-around, but the Atago class really suffered humiliation in this one.)

wait atago? isnt it takao-class?

NWSiaCB said:

Meanwhile, in reality, this wound up sinking or crippling 3/4ths of the Atago class (including Kurita's flagship Atago) between two subs that got away, and the last undamaged Atago-class, Choukai, sank from direct cannon fire from a carrier in Taffy-3.

... Leyte was NOT kind to the Atago class. (Well, it was an absolute slaughter all-around, but the Atago class really suffered humiliation in this one.)

I always compared what the Takao-class suffered at Leyte vs. what the New Orleans-class suffered at Savo Island

chronicx said:

wait atago? isnt it takao-class?

Because of Atago was completed first, there are some sources that call it the Atago-class, and others the Takao-class.

NWSiaCB said:

Because of Atago was completed first, there are some sources that call it the Atago-class, and others the Takao-class.

No Navy is ever consistent about that. A lot of the early sci-fi writers seem to have been Teeaboos so they take the RN convention that the first to complete (launch? commission) is the nameship. I don't actually know whether the RN themselves kept it consistent or not, but the IJN that based their traditions on them often waffled between contract order and completion date. The USN assumed the IJN was consistent, hence they called it the Nachi-class (completion order) while the IJN internally called it the Myoukou-class (contract order).

Then there's the USN's inconsistency. It's not just tradition but also technically regulation that the nameship is based on contract order, not launch date or commission date. But for at least one cruiser class, all three of those criteria were ignored and they based it on... keel-laying date. Then there's the Benson-Gleaves class destroyers--they were originally the Bristol and Livermore classes and were known as such throughout the war. It was only afterwards that they sorted out all these inconsistencies and renamed classes to fit regulations and to match how we now know them as.