Though we considered Fubuki-class destroyers were the backbone of the IJN combined fleet, the Kagerou-class destroyers fought almost all of the fiercest battles in the Pacific and probably most of them endured the worst during the war.
Now that we have Amatsukaze, probably we should have Nowaki, Arashi, Isokaze or Urakaze next. I bet Nowaki is already a candidate.
Makes me remember watching those TAS for Ocarina of Time on nicovideo where the Deku Tree is represented with ")谷(", usually in the context of life extension (ignoring him and his dungeon).
More to the point, Amatsukaze has only missed twice, judging by the white pegs.
I remember someone did a statistical analysis of the game, saying that, just because of the way the pieces were shaped, assuming random distribution of ships, shots towards the center of the field were more likely to hit than shots in the corner, with a gradient of probability increasing as you went away from the corners.
I always put many of my ships at or near the corners, and tried to think of "tricky" combinations that would lead people away from trying to sink my ships. (Putting two ships that weren't the carriers in an "L" formation, so that people would stop shooting when they got 4-5 hits in a row, and hear something sank, not thinking they hit a 3-4 tile long ship plus one hit on another ship. Even if you only do it every now and then, it causes your opponent to shoot all around a ship they already sank trying to see if there are other hiding ships around it after you've been caught doing it a couple times.)
Lunatic6 said:
Though we considered Fubuki-class destroyers were the backbone of the IJN combined fleet, the Kagerou-class destroyers fought almost all of the fiercest battles in the Pacific and probably most of them endured the worst during the war.
Now that we have Amatsukaze, probably we should have Nowaki, Arashi, Isokaze or Urakaze next. I bet Nowaki is already a candidate.
Amusingly, all but Nowaki are now in...
And the Fubuki class was a revolutionary design that was a forerunner for all the destroyers (on both sides of the war) that followed, but they were also a couple generations older than the Kagerou class, and nearly obsolete by the start of the war.
Japan has good reason to celebrate their Fubuki destroyers, which were like introducing the first jet fighters for their time, along with their "Long Lance" or "Oxygen" torpedoes. It's just that they lost their edge in the decade and a half before the war started, as everyone else copied their success. The iconic American Fletcher-class were based on the Fubuki with upgrades. (And ironically, two Fletcher-class destroyers that fought against the Japanese were sent to Japan to help jump-start its JMSDF, being a sort of Verniy of the American side.)
The iconic American Fletcher-class were based on the Fubuki with upgrades. (And ironically, two Fletcher-class destroyers that fought against the Japanese were sent to Japan to help jump-start its JMSDF, being a sort of Verniy of the American side.)
Not really. Beyond the vaguest sense of being large fleet destroyers anyway.
Japan's head start actually did help them into the wars years because the large Fubuki class ships were completed before the London treaty of 1930 that limited DD tonnage. This served Japanese interest just fine as that limit ended up being quite a bit less then the Fubuki's displacement, in fact the Fubukis were nearly the size of the limited number of treaty allowed "Destroyer Leaders" and their larger overall size also left a bit more growth potential as seen when a late 30s rebuild after the treaty lapsed pushed them to nearly the same initial weight as the Fletcher class at about 2,000 tons.
On the flipside it pissed the US off to no end during during the 30s as they tried to modernize their DD force and produce comparable ships at about 85% the weight. As might be expected this goal was never really met and the Fubuki continued to enjoy a notable advantage over US designs throughout the 30s. This was to be frank not because she was just that advanced really, but because treaty limitations prevented anyone from building a ship of her size again until the late 30s.
The US navy not having completed any large DD during the 20s then had to try and modernize more or less it's entire DD force during the 30s treaty era and could not really get the ships it wanted as a result. Repeated attempts to get the mix of range, firepower, and stability it wanted failed and the designs had to be scaled back. It was only after the treaty lapsed in the late 30s that they could design what they'd really wanted from the start, and it's no accident that both sides first post treaty DDs (The Fletcher and it's real counterpart the Kagero) ended up being extremely similar in weight and length. Though the slightly broader beam on the Fletcher served it better when upgrade weight invariably piled on.
The Fletcher was pretty much the ship the US Navy had wanted wanted throughout the 30s, much like the Kagero was about what Japan wanted and which was basically, in fact, a slightly modernized Fubuki (there is honestly little to chose from between them). However, while similar is scale the designs have rather notable differences in details and focus that show the Flecther was clearly a distinct ship designed around USN concepts and not overly influenced by Japanese vessels beyond the obvious need to be able to fight them. The end result of those choices was that in most ways that matter the Fletcher was a better vessel then the ships the IJN was deploying at the same time (effectively repeats of the Kagero, which as noted actually were in many ways just slightly updated Fubukis)
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