[bulk] Virgin Killer Sweater Implications

create implication virgin_killer_sweater -> backless_outfit
create implication virgin_killer_sweater -> open-back_dress
create implication virgin_killer_sweater -> sweater_dress

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Because it gets a little tiring having to remember all of these things when tagging this particular outfit, I wanted to create a BUR that would imply some of the more obvious ones.

I've left out the following tags since they may be subject to contention:

• halterneck/turtleneck sweater - There's the potential for an image to not show the shoulders/neck, although I suppose we could add it in if one doesn't wish to tag virgin killer sweater on images that don't show this.
• ribbed sweater - There could be variations, although as far as I've seen, the neckband is always ribbed.
• aran sweater
• backless
• bare back

The bulk update request #1073 has been rejected.

I'm against the sweater dress part, as it may not necessarily fall far enough down past the waist to be a dress.

post #2610478 is almost, but just shy of where I'd consider a sweater or long shirt to normally end n

The open back and maybe backless I wouldn't argue with, though.

On that note, what is the relation between bare back and backless, anyway? Bare back suggests 3/4 of the back is exposed, but then what's that mean for backless... can't say for sure since there's no wiki page for it. So for now, I decided to update the BUR to use bare back instead.

EDIT: Right, and then there's posts like post #2610277. It seems bare back in reference to the back, whereas backless outfit refers to the outfit. Changing it back.

I'll go against dress\sweater dress implications since artists just love to modify this stuff (let's say it's more a meme tag, than an outfit one, like cat lingerie with no implications). And Jarlath has a good point as well, also upper body posts are at question.

About backless outfit - we need a guidance for this tag. Character can wear something under dress, that will cover her back completely and what about post #2609641? Can we use backless outfit if back is not visible at all?

Hmm, I suppose you're right on that much. Perhaps the wiki page might need to be rewritten a little to indicate it's more of a meme than an outfit like the other 'outfit' tags that have went viral.

I had only discovered backless outfit like two days ago, and I think there needs to be some clarification on its' usage in addition to backless. What is the difference between the two, anyway? Is there some sort of backless without a backless outfit? Or do they deserve an alias?

EDIT: And it also seems backless dress is aliased to open-back dress. Perhaps open-back dress should imply backless outfit too, but still not sure how to use the tag.

-1 to all implications

Leave the tags in the wiki so that they show under "related tags".

It's more of a trend than anything so I'll be rejecting the BUR, but I would like to wrap up some of the ambiguity we have between some tags.

The bulk update request #1061 has been rejected.

The bulk update request #1061 has been rejected.

Only partially related, but...if a character is wearing it the wrong way round, should it be tagged with you're_doing_it_wrong? Kinda seems redundant if we have a tag like wardrobe error.

This time in the correct topic :>.

I actually went ahead and updated virgin killer sweater as you said that, along with fixing some of the relevant posts. Left you're doing it wrong on some images that better matched the definition than wardrobe error, but some have both.

The related tags should be correct now, given the pixiv page itself suggests wearing it backwards is also an acceptable (still not 'correct' but) way of wearing it.

Provence said:

Only partially related, but...if a character is wearing it the wrong way round, should it be tagged with you're_doing_it_wrong? Kinda seems redundant if we have a tag like wardrobe error.

This time in the correct topic :>.

I tagged both on post #2613073 as Mako tied it in such a way that it conveniently covered most of her chest, and it's obviously backwards (someone on Pixiv tagged it as open-chest_sweater because of it).

Jarlath said:

I tagged both on post #2613073 as Mako tied it in such a way that it conveniently covered most of her chest, and it's obviously backwards (someone on Pixiv tagged it as open-chest_sweater because of it).

Yeah.
But should it really be tagged with you're doing it wrong? I don't think it should be used for fashion if the corresponding tag is wardrobe error.

Provence said:

Yeah.
But should it really be tagged with you're doing it wrong? I don't think it should be used for fashion if the corresponding tag is wardrobe error.

Would an average person looking for a backwards open back sweater use wardrobe error or you're doing it wrong? I'd feel better about using both here if she was tying it on still, but she's done dressing.

If she wasn't so... small... she's qualify for a few other tags too.

I think it's fitting to use wardrobe error without you're doing it wrong when it's worn backwards more as of a fashion statement. The corresponding pixiv encyclopedia page was updated to mention that it can be worn backwards for a different kind of sex appeal, so it's not entirely wrong as you're doing it wrong would convey.

you're doing it wrong is a little bit subjective, but it sees clear usage when one wears the sweater wrong without prior knowledge. When it's intentional, that's when wardrobe error kicks in.

Mikaeri said:

I think it's fitting to use wardrobe error without you're doing it wrong when it's worn backwards more as of a fashion statement. The corresponding pixiv encyclopedia page was updated to mention that it can be worn backwards for a different kind of sex appeal, so it's not entirely wrong as you're doing it wrong would convey.

you're doing it wrong is a little bit subjective, but it sees clear usage when one wears the sweater wrong without prior knowledge. When it's intentional, that's when wardrobe error kicks in.

Until it's translated, I can't say definitively that Mako is wearing it backwards as a fashion statement versus being too tired or lazy to figure out which way is the front.

Are all these images with this tag surfacing because of tag updates or are all of them being uploaded?

All tagging you see here is done manually. Not sure what you're asking.

All I know is that I'm already tired of it. Didn't happen witb the open-chest sweater fad though.

Mikaeri said:

All tagging you see here is done manually. Not sure what you're asking.

Over the last few days I've been seeing dozens of pics with this tag, are they all new uploads or bumped because of tagging (not even sure if updating tags bumps them up).