"not-anime related"? Okay, then let's remove all videogame and touhou images as well. If you're gonna flag something because it's in english instead of japanese, just admit it.
And if someone tries the "only japanese artists should be here" rebuttal, I'll gladly provide a gigantic list of american, austrialian and european artists that have been on danbooru for ages without anyone complaining about it.
I'm sure what jjj14 meant is that it's not Japan related in any way, shape, or form, whether in content, style, or author. Anyway, yes, solely western things are occasionally allowed, but they oughta be outstanding in some way to be considered.
UnderneathTheWaves said: I'm sure what jjj14 meant is that it's not Japan related in any way, shape, or form, whether in content, style, or author. Anyway, yes, solely western things are occasionally allowed, but they oughta be outstanding in some way to be considered.
So you didn't flag this one post #912588 simply because it has pixiv-tan in it? I have to side with the others, I find the flagging unjust.
I've seen flags on westerns drawings of superheros, yet japanese drawings of western superheros remain. There is just something off about danbooru when it comes to bending the rules on uploads. "Non-anime related" can pretty much be every video game and original character here, including OS-tan which are based on western products. It most certainly does not explain the reasons UnderneathTheWaves had to come up with.
UnderneathTheWaves said: I'm sure what jjj14 meant is that it's not Japan related in any way, shape, or form, whether in content, style, or author. Anyway, yes, solely western things are occasionally allowed, but they oughta be outstanding in some way to be considered.
Can you please elaborate on "outstanding" please? Does the artwork have to be officially merited by the art community at large, receive favorable criticisms from professional critics or win awards from professional competitions before it's allowed on here? There are European artists posted here without flags, there are South American artists posted here without flags. There are even subpar Japanese squiggles on here. Why are solely North American artists discriminated against on the site?
No, because there isn't an argument to be had, no matter how much boldtype you use.
This is simply the way Danbooru has operated for the last two to three years, if not more. If there is ostensibly nothing Japanese about a picture, whether by style, IP, or whoever drew it, then it can be argued that it goes against the stated theme, scope, and purpose of Danbooru.
It's not some kind of fervent anti-gaijin, anti-western bias going on here. It's keeping with how Danbooru was designed and continues to be maintained. Again, there are exceptions to be made, occasionally. But jjj wasn't wrong for flagging it, even if the wording behind his reasoning was.
UnderneathTheWaves said: No, because there isn't an argument to be had, no matter how much boldtype you use.
This is simply the way Danbooru has operated for the last two to three years, if not more. If there is ostensibly nothing Japanese about a picture, whether by style, IP, or whoever drew it, then it can be argued that it goes against the stated theme, scope, and purpose of Danbooru.
It's not some kind of fervent anti-gaijin, anti-western bias going on here. It's keeping with how Danbooru was designed and continues to be maintained. Again, there are exceptions to be made, occasionally. But jjj wasn't wrong for flagging it, even if the wording behind his reasoning was.
Except it is Japanese-styled?
Kikimaru said: Pretty sure Danbooru has evolved to a state of "throw it in, if a mod likes it it's fine".
This is why I love booru, The mods got a good head on their shoulders.
UnderneathTheWaves said: This is simply the way Danbooru has operated for the last two to three years, if not more. If there is ostensibly nothing Japanese about a picture, whether by style, IP, or whoever drew it, then it can be argued that it goes against the stated theme, scope, and purpose of Danbooru.
Ok, so Explain what the purpose for Danbooru is? Is it a repository for exclusively Japanese artwork? There's already Pivix. Is it's purpose to be an english version of pivix?
It's not some kind of fervent anti-gaijin, anti-western bias going on here.
Read the paragraph directly above this in your own post. There's inherent bias if you say "Unless it's Themed, drawn in the style of, drawn by, or from Japan" it's against posting rules. What the hell kind of posting rule is that? There are posts from European or Hispanic artists that don't follow any of that and they're not flagged for deletion for "not being anime-styled."
This is the thing all this hoopla has me confused about.
Apart from the odd face here and there like in this comic's last panel, they're all pretty clearly anime or chibi styled. How can one justify flagging it for not being Japan-related, then? Any possible quality issues aside, it really seems more like they were flagged solely for focusing on western social networking sites, despite the style qualifying it for inclusion here.
Right, second panel is clearly modeled after expressions used in anime, though the rest could be said to be generic or western cartoon style.
Ok, so Explain what the purpose for Danbooru is? Is it a repository for exclusively Japanese artwork? There's already Pivix. Is it's purpose to be an english version of pivix?
A Japan-centric imageboard, yes. And no, it's not intended to be Pixiv, despite much art coming from there. That's due to it being a very large source of creator uploaded art.
Read the paragraph directly above this in your own post. There's inherent bias if you say "Unless it's Themed, drawn in the style of, drawn by, or from Japan" it's against posting rules. What the hell kind of posting rule is that? There are posts from European or Hispanic artists that don't follow any of that and they're not flagged for deletion for "not being anime-styled."
No, there's no bias, because a) it's simply a rule keeping with the mission statement of Danbooru and how it's intended to be used, to keep it from becoming an everything board and b) though you keep mentioning artists of other nationalities and how they're never flagged, I keep saying that there is often room for exception, which is just as well the reason why they're not targeted.
You seem to be under the impression that this is my official stance or that I'm against this image when all I've done is point out why it may be flagged according to Danbooru.
UnderneathTheWaves said: Right, second panel is clearly modeled after expressions used in anime, though the rest could be said to be generic or western cartoon style.
A Japan-centric imageboard, yes. And no, it's not intended to be Pixiv, despite much art coming from there. That's due to it being a very large source of creator uploaded art.
No, there's no bias, because a) it's simply a rule keeping with the mission statement of Danbooru and how it's intended to be used, to keep it from becoming an everything board and b) though you keep mentioning artists of other nationalities and how they're never flagged, I keep saying that there is often room for exception, which is just as well the reason why they're not targeted.
You seem to be under the impression that this is my official stance or that I'm against this image when all I've done is point out why it may be flagged according to Danbooru.
iliekmudkips said: This is why I love booru, The mods got a good head on their shoulders.
Sure, Anyone can flag it, But what is a flag if no action is taken therefore after? I can understand some people wanting to flag things for no reasons, But the mods dont have to respond to every flag as "omfg this post is bad delete it" without thinking beforehand.
You make it seem like Booru's going to become an everything board - its not. It doesnt matter if you're drawing a picture of Madoka or making a -tan out of your god damned napkin, If its anime-like, It should be on a booru.
