Oh jeez, she's still at it...
Not that I'd expect much less.
Wonder if Yukari is starting to worry about ratings?

I wonder how much time has passed for now, since I see Eiki is still talking...

I bet Shiki is listing off all of the sins the individual audience members have committed. No names will be given, but she'll know you'll know who you are. Indeed, a very scary lady.

Watch out Mokou, it's Komachi's turn to bring the pain. Better do something quick.

Hey! CM Judge, no one wants to listen to your lectures about sins & un sins or about Hell. Come on, someone bring a person who acts like Great Khali! I doubt he can't be lectured because is one straight chop to the ground! So bring the close person to Great Khali! Now Komachi acts like Serena.

lastsinz said:
I wonder how much time has passed for now, since I see Eiki is still talking...

"eki still talking" has a margin between 10 minutes to 100 hours

"Big chance" huh. Big hint about the next episode's plot.

Since Hourai Elixir removes the very concept of death from a being who takes the elixir Mokou can't possibly permanently die. Mokou shouldn't give a shit what Komachi says.

So they are going to use this match to have them make up for there lack of eternal torment in hell

This might be during the big speech a few pages ago as it was the main focus, not what Mokou and Komachi are doing.

That and a cleavage sleeper hold is unlike as it's not anywhere near painful enough for their plans.

OkashiiNaito said:
Since Hourai Elixir removes the very concept of death from a being who takes the elixir Mokou can't possibly permanently die. Mokou shouldn't give a shit what Komachi says.

well if she can't bring Mokou to hell it seems she'll just have to bring hell to Mokou.

CureMiko said:
Hey! CM Judge, no one wants to listen to your lectures about sins & un sins or about Hell.

Which is exactly why she's doing it. She's playing the heel. She's being the bad guy that everyone hates, so that it's that much more satisfying when the "babyface" team finally beats them.

OkashiiNaito said:
Since Hourai Elixir removes the very concept of death from a being who takes the elixir Mokou can't possibly permanently die. Mokou shouldn't give a shit what Komachi says.

There's no accounting for the chance that someone slips her an antidote.

IF There's an antidote. The elixir's made using Kaguya's power over eternity. It may not be possible to get rid of it.

JakeBob said:
There's no accounting for the chance that someone slips her an antidote.

There is no antidote. It's an irreversible process.

If they was an antidote for the Hourai Elixir then one would assume that either character would have taken it by now.

Magus said:
There is no antidote. It's an irreversible process.

If you locate the specific dimension the elixir uses then you can eliminate the elixir's effect. The immortality granted by the elixir is still scientific in nature and is different from immortality gained from being a ghost/spirit/deity.

RiderFan said:
The immortality granted by the elixir is still scientific in nature and is different from immortality gained from being a ghost/spirit/deity.

Yes, in that it's beyond the immortality of a ghost, spirit or deity. Even gods can be killed. Kaguya and Mokou can't.

Even if their existence is beyond the concept of this reality, it exists in another reality linked to the one in the present reality. Since no other technology has mentioned inter-dimensional travel it is possible in theory to locate the existences of both Kaguya and Mokou in different realities and/or dimensions. *Science geek side is showing*

Oh, it's that discussion again.

nubman said:
well if she can't bring Mokou to hell it seems she'll just have to bring hell to Mokou.

Pretty much this. Just because you can't go to hell, doesn't mean karma won't get you in the end.

Magus said:
Yes, in that it's beyond the immortality of a ghost, spirit or deity. Even gods can be killed. Kaguya and Mokou can't.

Technically, Gods can't die. They can cease to exist, but they also can't die.

Wow! finally caught up!

Now I can roll on with the current people =w=

No, no, NO, Komachi! Bad reaper! No turning this into a long-winded piece of trash where Team Boring wins!

KICK KAGUYA AND MOKOU TO DEATH ALREADY.

PurpleXVI said:
KICK KAGUYA AND MOKOU TO DEATH ALREADY.

What, are you hoping they turn this match into a rousing game of "Kick the Immortal"?

nubman said:
well if she can't bring Mokou to hell it seems she'll just have to bring hell to Mokou.

Touche.

RiderFan said:
Even if their existence is beyond the concept of this reality, it exists in another reality linked to the one in the present reality. Since no other technology has mentioned inter-dimensional travel it is possible in theory to locate the existences of both Kaguya and Mokou in different realities and/or dimensions. *Science geek side is showing*

Except Yuyuko's power is a one-hit-kill to every being with a concept of death, yet her power is still ineffective on Kaguya or Mokou. If they could be killed within another reality, that would mean they do have a concept of death and the power should work. The fact it doesn't work shows they have absolutely no concept of death. Even resident inter-dimensional traveler and (nigh-)omnipotent being Yukari is amazed by the fact Mokou is actually invincible.
Kaguya and Mokou are their very own existence completely independent of the concept of reality. They are their own reality, unaffected by any force.

I thought there was a rule regarding scientific discussions about fantasy stories.
You don't have them.

The Hourai Elixir removes ones ability to reach enlightenment, IIRC. It means that they can never truly die and go to heaven or hell. They'll exist even if the world ceases to exist. /discussion

Okay, it'd bad enough that Shiki traumatized everyone by mutilating Kaguya right in front of them, but now she's lecturing them?!

And even worse, she's still going at it!

Amazing - I'm impressed that the artist illustrated what Mokou did back when she got the elixir. I don't think a lot of people know about that, seeing as how a lot of Mokou fans seem to think she's a good person, not a thief and a murderer.

jdwdesu said:
Amazing - I'm impressed that the artist illustrated what Mokou did back when she got the elixir. I don't think a lot of people know about that, seeing as how a lot of Mokou fans seem to think she's a good person, not a thief and a murderer.

Perhaps a good person in the current Gensokyo, but between the last 500 (or many, many more) years between then and now, bad things could have happened. Especially when one of your motivations for achieving immortality involves hunting down another potentially immortal person for revenge.

OkashiiNaito said:
Even resident inter-dimensional traveler and (nigh-)omnipotent being Yukari is amazed by the fact Mokou is actually invincible.

Yeah, pretty much what this guy said.

But back to the meat of the topic, Komachi is a reference to the Grim Reaper, and Mokou is someone who can't die. It's not like her threats of sins have any meaning to Mokou, who can't pay her visit to the afterlife. She, like Kaguya, is an eternal being. There is no afterlife for someone like her, her own life goes on forever.