My money is on Seta.

Skywolf666 said:
My money is on Seta.

This.

1st level Persona vs high level Persona ?

Yeah, right.

SinnerBeta said:
1st level Persona vs high level Persona ?

Yeah, right.

like if izanagi cant be a monster whit primal force and power charge

I think the P3 protagonist will win...
Just place a bullet in the gun and the P4 protagonist is dead

Izanagi can have one massive boost to even take out death. 'sides he can pull off his high level and use magic spells (CAUSE HE NEVER USES THE EPIC SWORD). And that gun you can't really put a bullet into it. Seta would probably be able to take the shot anyway if he can get hit by everything else.

Personally i'd prefer souji over minato, but given the circumstances, Minato seems to have the higher chance in winning.

I'd side for Minato. He's my favorite anyway. :P

Gonna go with Minato. We've been through too much together for me not to.

Hmmm... this is tough... feel like Souji trumphs Minato, but Thanatos trumphs Izanagi... there may be no safe bet.

Ouch, no offense meant towards Souji, but Minato's Dual Raids? Gonna fuck his shit up.

Of course, if this is just the Persona's shown above, Thanatos still crushes Izanagi. As said above, first level Persona vs. the level 60 something Thanatos? Megidola all up in this shit.

Thing is though. Izanagi is the first god in Japanese Mythology. While Thanatos is the god of Death. Really the idea of this would be epic. Just leave the whole game mechanics out of this and think on the scale of that in the Manga. Be one hell of a battle.

Though on a personal level. I like Souji more. So money is on him.

I prefer minato then souji

Izanagi is certainly weaker than Thanatos but Souji can turn it in God mode anyway, Izanagi no Ookami will overwhelm Thanatos since it has the power to kill a god.

In the weapon department, a japanese sword is better than a thin western sword. And because Souji's team has been fighting in a harsher environment than Minato, such as heavy fog areas, Souji would be better in term of sensing and reaction.

Therefore, Souji + glasses off smoke Minato in everway, lol.

I'd go with Souji because he isn't a bland, boring void of a character. Also he has better women and he can date all of them with no consequence cause he is apparently that sexy.

That's some weird perspective with Minato's right arm.

zeroasd said:
Izanagi is certainly weaker than Thanatos but Souji can turn it in God mode anyway, Izanagi no Ookami will overwhelm Thanatos since it has the power to kill a god.

In the weapon department, a japanese sword is better than a thin western sword. And because Souji's team has been fighting in a harsher environment than Minato, such as heavy fog areas, Souji would be better in term of sensing and reaction.

Therefore, Souji + glasses off smoke Minato in everway, lol.

He's using an axe.

zeroasd said:
Izanagi is certainly weaker than Thanatos but Souji can turn it in God mode anyway, Izanagi no Ookami will overwhelm Thanatos since it has the power to kill a god.

In the weapon department, a japanese sword is better than a thin western sword. And because Souji's team has been fighting in a harsher environment than Minato, such as heavy fog areas, Souji would be better in term of sensing and reaction.

Therefore, Souji + glasses off smoke Minato in everway, lol.

It'd be a really unfair fight if we were giving both of them the ability to use all of their Persona, because if we're going to go that route, then Minato just calls on Lucifer/Helel and Satan and annihilates Souji in a single turn.

Why does everyone forget Minato's Dual Raids?

Also, Tartarus wasn't exactly a nice place, either.

I'll vote for Minato, on the grounds of my memories of walking through Tartarus and using Armageddon on literally everything.

Fragbet85 said:
I'd go with Souji because he isn't a bland, boring void of a character.

Oh yeah, he's SUCH a fascinating character. And the voice acting !

zeroasd said:
Izanagi is certainly weaker than Thanatos but Souji can turn it in God mode anyway, Izanagi no Ookami will overwhelm Thanatos since it has the power to kill a god.

In the weapon department, a japanese sword is better than a thin western sword. And because Souji's team has been fighting in a harsher environment than Minato, such as heavy fog areas, Souji would be better in term of sensing and reaction.

Therefore, Souji + glasses off smoke Minato in everway, lol.

*slap*

Think. Then post.

if you wanna mention Izanagi no Ookami, then Messiah could also be brought in

Fragbet85 said:
I'd go with Souji because he isn't a bland, boring void of a character.

Examples, please?

I'm siding with Minato. If we're going with what's pictured right now, Thanatos has better abilities than Izanagi. Minato also has the ability to wield any weapon (except for knives and guns) so I'm sure a two-handed sword wouldn't exactly pose a problem to him.

And if Minato doesn't win, there's going to be one unhappy robot.

digisokicola said:
Examples, please?

I'm siding with Minato. If we're going with what's pictured right now, Thanatos has better abilities than Izanagi. Minato also has the ability to wield any weapon (except for knives and guns) so I'm sure a two-handed sword wouldn't exactly pose a problem to him.

And if Minato doesn't win, there's going to be one unhappy robot.

And, oh God, Elizabeth. No offence to Souji, but he's not ready for Elizabeth; he don't have the Dual Raids for it.

That woman was a monster.

Guys, guys I think we are all forgetting something very important here.

and that important thing is Minato's creepy little T-rex arm.

I actually found Souji to have some character. You can piece it together from some things he does when you aren't in control such as attempting the magic tricks for Nanako.

there is a battle inside the pic, and there is another war outside the pic...
maybe the artist didnt mean the in-game matter such as persona level or skill. Iazanagi is a god who created Japanese, and Thanatos is a Death god of Greek,fair or not, we cant tell it
damn, this will cause a War...

neyen said:
I actually found Souji to have some character. You can piece it together from some things he does when you aren't in control such as attempting the magic tricks for Nanako.

Exactly. It's a common misconception that the P3/P4 protagonists are voids to fill in because they are silent protagonists. They all have distinct personalties as evidenced by their text choices, and how other characters react to them.

Souji, is good with kids, can cook, and has quite some tough guy act as he can talk back to his teacher. He also has cool head, he can tell his party to calm down several times. Ergo, an actual badass.

FeMC is cheerful, enthusiastic, and endlessly happy no matter the odds. Yukari even outright describes her as this when talking to Mitsuru.

Minato, well he's calm and stoic. A little snarky. That's about it. The aforementioned scene with Yukari and Mitsuru, Yukari says he's "interesting" how generic can you that get? He's boring, period.

Love em both, but sorry Souji, gotta go with Minato here.

Fragbet85 said:
Minato, well he's calm and stoic. A little snarky. That's about it. The aforementioned scene with Yukari and Mitsuru, Yukari says he's "interesting" how generic can you that get? He's boring, period.

Now, that's not fair. In his various Social Link interactions, he's shown as having a very deep caring side, and is eager to cheer people up when they're down.

Boomstick said:
Guys, guys I think we are all forgetting something very important here.

and that important thing is Minato's creepy little T-rex arm.

I believe that is just his arm going towards the background, not a tiny arm.

Anywho, I'd love to see a crossover game with the P3 and P4 teams. RPG or maybe fighting, I'd love to see what could be done.

Souji 'cuz he's my favorite, Minato because Thanatos > Izanagi, purely on a mechanical basis.

Izanagi-no-Okami, OTOH... well, my I-n-O is immune to everything but Almighty, immune to all status effects that make me lose control of Souji, has Victory Cry, and oh yeah, Heat Riser + Power Charge + HASSOU motherfucking TOBI. (And Megidoloan just in case.)

PS. Also, Souji is a better pimp than Minato. Just sayin'~

PPS. Also, he's got Teddy to go BEAR-SERK on shit. And Kanji, who'll RENOVATE YOUR ASS.

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They're both going to just go into epic berserk mode as soon as shit gets real. Then they'll both magically defeat death, shake hands, and be the two most badass bros in history, forever.

please please stop being too much of a fanboy in comparing the both of them.
think of whats in the picture first:
1.) souji+sword>minato+axe
2.) Izanagi only < Thanatos (total raep)

think of whats inside the real game:

1.) souji summons izanagi no ookami's myriad truth < minato calls upon the Armageddon (totally fucked up battle isnt it?)
2.) souji better pimp and has a loli > minato pimp for mentally scarce girls and an emo loli that keeps on demanding for foods
3.) souji only weapon is long swords < minato is our little know it all guy
4.) Fog+headache < Extreme fatigue+heavy breathing
5.) Souji saves a town < Minato saves humanity
6.) SOUJI ACE DETECTIVE < MINATO A.K.A. Jesus Christ

Tyss said:
4.) Fog+headache < Extreme fatigue+heavy breathing

Fog induces sickness and fatigue and hospitalizes people unless they have Teddie's glasses. How is Tartarus fatigue worse than this?

Tyss said:
5.) Souji saves a town < Minato saves humanity

Actually, Souji did save humanity. Izanami made it clear she would turn humanity into shadows with the fog. Not to mention Souji lived after KILLING A GOD.

Tyss said:
6.) SOUJI ACE DETECTIVE < MINATO A.K.A. Jesus Christ

You mean Souji who ONE-SHOTED the Japanese god of death? Have I mentioned that he didn't die? Minato could only seal Nyx. And then died.

Please, don't call us fanboys when you alter details to favor one.

Anybody can kill gods these days. Even half the persona ARE gods.

Minato faced Nyx. Not even Izanami could face Nyx and live.

NeoDarkKnight said:
Not even Izanami could face Nyx and live.

You don't know that.

What we do know is that both our respective protagonists faced their own god of death. All their conventional attacks didn't work, until they used the Power of Friendship. One lived, the other died. Those are the facts people.

Person

Fragbet85 said:
You don't know that.

Persona 3 pretty much crammed the "Nyx cannot be defeated by ANY means" message down our throats in the game. =x

NeoDarkKnight said:
Persona 3 pretty much crammed the "Nyx cannot be defeated by ANY means" message down our throats in the game. =x

Your point? None of this indicates what Izanami can or can do to Nyx. Also much like Nyx, Izanami couldn't be stopped without the assistance of Igor. All this is unproven speculation.

Fragbet85 said:
Your point? None of this indicates what Izanami can or can do to Nyx. Also much like Nyx, Izanami couldn't be stopped without the assistance of Igor. All this is unproven speculation.

And whats your point of Souji being better than Minatao because he lives? By your logic, P4's final boss could be anything and Souji would be better than Minato because he lives.

NeoDarkKnight said:
And whats your point of Souji being better than Minatao because he lives? By your logic, P4's final boss could be anything and Souji would be better than Minato because he lives.

When did I say that? My only stance was that Souji was the better character because he actually had a personality. Both had comparable feats, which would normally be impossible. The fact that he lived is just another one of these feats. My only counters are when the people who try to belittle Souji's accomplishments by altering facts. Or by making baseless speculation that Nyx is somehow better than Izanami.

Fragbet85 said:
When did I say that?

Fragbet85 said:
You mean Souji who ONE-SHOTED the Japanese god of death? Have I mentioned that he didn't die? Minato could only seal Nyx. And then died.

Also Souji had about as much personality as Minato. He was non-reactive to Nanako's death. The narrative "You are angry/sad" doesn't count for personality. =/

There is a fundamental difference as to why Nyx was sealed and Izanami was defeated (more like a 'fine you win, I'll leave you guys alone').

For one thing Nyx was portrayed as more of a mindless destroyer without a will of her own. She is neither malevolent nor benevolent and only came to Earth because humanity itself willed for the end to come (via Erebus if we want to get technical and use the FES storyline). So long as that threat exists and Nyx itself is unable to be slain (Souji didn't kill Izanami okay?), sealing Nyx is the only course of action. The sacrifice is what made Minato such a badass character in my book.

While Souji did defeat Izanami, he never killed her and Izanami decided by herself to leave humanity alone. Therefore he wasn't required to make the same sacrifice Minato did. Besides Minato defeated someone more powerful than both Izanami and Nyx. Not that Souji didn't defeat his own optional boss, but Margaret just paled in comparison to Elizabeth ya?

Anyway Thanatos > Izanagi and Sword > Axe?

Fragbet85 said:
Both had comparable feats, which would normally be impossible. The fact that he lived is just another one of these feats.

Read what I wrote please

NeoDarkKnight said:
The narrative "You are angry/sad" doesn't count for personality. =/

Yes it does. Also Souji was clearly in a panic when Nanako was tagged as the next victim. He also held out her hand on the hospital bed. His "non-reactive" is explained in his option "Calm the hell down!". It shows how
much more level-headed than anyone else.

Fragbet85 said:
Souji was clearly in a panic when Nanako was tagged as the next victim. He also held out her hand on the hospital bed. His "non-reactive" is explained in his option "Calm the hell down!". It shows how
much more level-headed than anyone else.

If that stuff counts, Minato has about as much personality I'm afraid.

Re: Izanami vs. Nyx: Neither protagonist kills their respective end boss. Nyx gets sealed, Izanami sees the errors of her ways. This argument for either side is invalid.

If we REALLY want to be objective about this, Souji wins by default. P4 happens a year after P3, and Minato is already dead at this point. Minato either 1) never shows up to the fight, thus forfeiting or 2) is a corpse and loses because he's dead, Souji's not.

Also, I trump all other arguments based on the fact that Hamuko/Femtagonist is more adorable than Minato and Souji combined and therefore beats out both of them.

Spoiler warning be damned here, folks. =x

Let's get this shit straight. This is a 'could be' not necessarily 'will be'.

When it all boils down to it, it's a match of endurance.

That would be epic.

Tyss said:
please please stop being too much of a fanboy in comparing the both of them.
think of whats in the picture first:
1.) souji+sword>minato+axe

Obviously since many including scientist and martial arts masters alike have admited that a Nihontou such as Katana is the ultimate weapon of a martial artist.

2.) Izanagi only < Thanatos (total raep)

Izanagi no Ookami >> Thanatos, no dice.

think of whats inside the real game:

1.) souji summons izanagi no ookami's myriad truth < minato calls upon the Armageddon (totally fucked up battle isnt it?)

People have been this on the basis of 1 vs 1, therefore as ridiculous as Armageddon is, it is not accountable for this battle. That was so ridiculous that they take that out of the game later on, it is a bad fighting system, not the power of the character.

3.) souji only weapon is long swords < minato is our little know it all guy

As I said, Katana is the ultimate weapon, no need for all the other trarshs. Minato isn't good with anything so he use several of them can also be an argument for it

4.) Fog+headache < Extreme fatigue+heavy breathing

Fog + fatigue, mind you, that was no headache. Fog is a big hinder on fighting performance even with Teddie's glasses on. The environment of the TV world is times harsher than that of Dark hour.

5.) Souji saves a town < Minato saves humanity

Wrong, both saved humanity

6.) SOUJI ACE DETECTIVE < MINATO A.K.A. Jesus Christ

Souji is a secret messiah same as Minato. Minato doesn't come in anyway better.

Memiroa said:
Let's get this shit straight. This is a 'could be' not necessarily 'will be'.

Sure, Souji lived in the end, Souji has Izanagi no Okami, Souji basically got the good end out of it all. He even achieved the World Arcana.

But Minato, he lived with Death for ten fucking years. He made that power his own, he unleashed the power of the goddamn UNIVERSE against Nyx at the cost of his own death, believing that the world deserved to live.

The others are correct except this point. Minato live with Death for 10 years for several reason.
Firstly, Death was not completed, it is not even comparable to when it breaks out of Minato's original's persona. It live in Minato 10 years to both give him power and also recover its power as Minato maturing.

Secondy, He did not make that power his own, It FORCED it way out of Minato when he return to the place give birth to it.

Thirdly, Minato would have never manifested that power if Eagis did no put all of her power into sealing Death into him who just happened to present nearby. Same with the argument Souji wouldn't be exist and act all badass if Nyx wasn't sealed by Minato.

Minato did not die, we don't know that. He decide to draws his soul to seal/become the seal between Nyx and humanity and can possible be revived.
Souji didn't have to do so since with his power, he surpass Izanami and defeat her. Minato pulled a draw with Nyx, and did not have the power to defeat it.
Nyx cannot be defeated heavily rely on the reason human wish for it to exist, doesn't mean it neccessary is stronger than Izanami no Ookami who also is a death god, cannot die and had habored hatred for humanity for..you know shit how long it is.

In the end, Souji has a few more competitive edge than Minato.

To those that has always mistaken that Nyx is stronger than Izanagi, let me remind you of the actual battle.
All Nyx has is a huge a ammount of HP since it arcana rotates. There is no attack that can particularly deal a ko on the whole team. A arcana of Nyx can easily be defeated if you concentrate your attack enough. There is no particular attack that can easily wipe out your or your whole team unless it use 2 megidolaon continously
Where in Izanami battle. When she enters her God form, 2 of her megidolaon can easily wipe out your whole team. One of her critical hit can surely kill you. Gargarian Eyes and Summons to Yomi combo is deathly can also totally destroy you.
Of course, this is a comparison in expert mode. This is for the purpose of proving that Nyx does not come in anyway stronger than Izanami, it is actually the total opposite. It is just simply Nyx can't be killed, doesn't mean it is stronger.

Minato has the Universe Arcana...he has housed death in his body, his powers were raised inside of him for over 10 years of being a seal. Gotta go with him.

People seem to forget that Souji wouldn't be alive if it weren't for Minato......

zeroasd said:
Obviously since many including scientist and martial arts masters alike have admited that a Nihontou such as Katana is the ultimate weapon of a martial artist.

Izanagi no Ookami >> Thanatos, no dice.

like many other said before. where the fuck proof that souji gonna use no Ookami. In this picture above he uses Izanagi NO no Ookami for godsake.

People have been this on the basis of 1 vs 1, therefore as ridiculous as Armageddon is, it is not accountable for this battle. That was so ridiculous that they take that out of the game later on, it is a bad fighting system, not the power of the character.

or it is the power of the character since Minato is the only one protagonis who had two persona at once. the first is his own Orpheus, the later is Thanatos.

As I said, Katana is the ultimate weapon, no need for all the other trarshs. Minato isn't good with anything so he use several of them can also be an argument for it

who said that shit ?
Sure, Nihontou not katana, souji is using Nodachi, you noob, is cool as heel but it is not a ultimate weapon. Proof ? try using it and cut the full plate armor of Euroupe Mediavel Knight and you will know what i mean, or try using it to cut anything that not human flesh and thicker than 2cm. good luck with that.

Fog + fatigue, mind you, that was no headache. Fog is a big hinder on fighting performance even with Teddie's glasses on. The environment of the TV world is times harsher than that of Dark hour.

Harsher ? WTF is gonna harsher than the darker than darkness abyss uses as a eternal prison for the most dangerous, most sinister beings from the mythology era ? the world inside a tv ?
if that is true, thoses titan, monster, criminal .... must be very happy for zeus to throw them into the deepest hell rather than inside A TV.

pquote]Wrong, both saved humanity
Souji is a secret messiah same as Minato. Minato doesn't come in anyway better.[/quote]

sue. souji convinced the psycho goddess of death who her lovey dovey husband abandoned her after see her turn into a wicked being beacause of death of birth, do not turn his tiny village into another silent hill and maybe after that slowly the world.

Minato ? he stop the avatar of total death and destruction from nuking the earth with sattelite cannon from space, turn human into some NCL in one night including that would be hero someday souji seta.

sue. Minato does not come in anyway better.

and face it, Minato has better haircut than souji.

Souji killed an immortal God, not any God, THE god that made EVERYTHING. He is OBVIOUSLY more powerful. Also, He is a total badass. He made his Izanagi No Ookami with his barehands and with the power of friendship. Did Minato do that? No. Because he's not a god, he's a Messiah, see the point? Minato will never be better than Souji.

Minato does have a better haircut, though. Maybe if it was a fashion contest, Minato would win. But otherwise, he wouldn't be able to do anything.

My money is on the fangirls, NOTHING can stop them.

Some people seem to be throwing around immortal and kill in the same sentence, isn't that just stupid? I mean in P3 the Avatar of Death is unstoppable...once it starts. So Minato used himself (with the power of his s-links) to seal away Nyx from the world. I don't know too much about number 4, but the whole argument is making even number 3 look bad...I don't think they would fight, and to compare them is a little weird. Souji is more of a badass character, where as Minato is more "cool" and unaffected...I think they would be friends as long as you take away the whole Minato being sealed away thing...and age difference of course. Which reminds me, how far into the future does number 4 take place?

tl;dr

christ... I thought *I* was a fanboy...
I'd have never thought it would get so out of hand over a pic as generic as this.

This balongs on /a/, not Danbooru

It doesn't matter which Protagonist beat which god. If it had come down to it, I'm sure Souji would've sacrificed himself to become the Great Seal, and Minato would've cleared away the ultimate deception with the Truth and lived to tell the tale.

What matters is that Souji is summoning BASELINE Izanagi, first Persona of the Fool Arcana, while Minato is summoning Thanatos, Ultimate Persona of the Death Arcana. In this state, Izanagi is clad in stereotypical "delinquent student" clothes, meaning that Souji is still wild and undefined; Thanatos, by contrast, is vicious, cruel, and uncontrollable, meaning Minato's inner power is still raw and untamed.

The Persona contest is clear, but the fight between the Protagonists themselves isn't. Souji doesn't need to force his Persona out via suicidal trauma, he summons it via willpower alone. It can't be an endurance test because both the TV World and the Dark Hour sap people's stamina and mental acuity like crazy. So it comes down to Souji's speed with his sword giving him an edge over the more cumbersome axe --but if Minato gets one good swing in, it'll be over.

The correct answer is the Demi-Fiend

Katana? Ultimate Weapon? WTF? Katana's for most of it's history were inferior version early Tang Era China's Swords, which is where they learned the process of folding which makes the Katana famous for it today. The Celts did it centuries before and the Chinese surpassed that much earlier with Wootz Steel.

An Axe would destroy any Katana.

Dotmw said:
The correct answer is the Demi-Fiend

Heck yes, freaking Demi-Fiend is the man.

You learn more about both of the protagonist if you read the Mangas

You learn more about both of the protagonist if you read the Mangas

there is so much fanboy'ism and bullshitting here i don't even

it's surprising how many people are just afraid to admit they prefer _____ and like him better so they are going to vote for him

nowhere is it stated that Izanami is the "god of everything" in-game. katanas are definitely NOT the ultimate weapon. a character living after a battle does not automatically does not make them stronger. personality has nothing to do with this fight unless you make it a popularity contest instead. though, it looks like it's already one, at any rate

Izanami was a goddess, sure, but Nyx is the concept/embodiment of death. That's pretty much also the level of a god, whether it's above gods or below it is something i'm not going to divulge in. It's a fact that Nyx can't be killed, this was stressed many times in-game, but nothing of the sort was ever mentioned in Persona 4 for Izanami, so you can't argue that for her. Still, since she never died anyway, we'll never know.

I love both characters, though I do like Minato more.

Since I'm here, I might as well say I think Minato would win anyway, regardless of how much I like him more. He's got a lot more going for him; death being sealed in him, the universe arcana, Thanatos being stronger than Izanagi in-game wise (that is NOT Izanagi-no-Okami, so don't even bring him up unless you want to match all persona vs persona), being able to wield more than one type of weapon, dual raids/fusion spells (i don't want to bring up armageddon, but I will anyway), ect.

minato all the way~♥

Izanagi no Okami got brought up a lot, but everyone just went ahead and ignored Messiah, huh?

these arguments are kinda ridiculous. Ok let's straight things up

1st - both MCs has the wild card, thus, giving them the ability to summon multiple personas. having one persona isn't gonna settle things up. in the case of the pic though, Narukami(P4) uses Izanagi which is a low level persona while Yuuki(P3) uses Thanatos which is a High level persona, so basically Narukami and Izanagi won't stand a chance. but think again, as I've mentioned earlier both sides won't settle for one persona only.

2nd- in terms of weapon,Narukami uses a katana, on the other side yuuki can use multiple weapons and I don't know why people only wants to let Yuuki use the axe only ,since he has a variety of choice. anyway, here we can see that yuuki has any chance of winning against narukami's weapon or not. if yuuki uses an axe, yeah he'll lose considering how heavy the axe is. if he uses a katana as well, they'll be even. if he uses a rapier/short sword or gloves it's 50/50, it all depends on yuuki's speed and accuracy. if yuuki uses a spear he has the advantage since it's pretty long enough to stab Narukami.

3rd- abilities, in terms of persona summoning they are equal. but there's one thing that yuuki has that Narukami doesn't, it's the dual raid ability A.K.A persona fusion attack. If yuuki uses Helel and satan's Armageddon, then Narukami's gonna have a hard time dealing with it.

Although I doubt these two would fight considering their personalities. I bet you a hundred bucks and they'd be good friends.

But if I'm gonna use my inner fanboyism, I'll go all the way with Yuuki Makoto.

IMO. Minato > Souji as pretty clear that Nyx > Izanami.

Nyx has Moonless Gown <which reflect all kind of attacks> and can cast DEATH instantly which Minato survived to unleash the Great Seal. Then managed to keep his promised IN SUCH STATE which makes him the most notable character.

Also Nyx hold the power of almost Arcanas in the Series while Izanami DOESN'T.

While Izanami has Thousand Curse <Thousand Curses Removes a party member from the battle (scripted)> which makes me laugh when i saw someone opinion claim that this one can kill... NO? IF it can kill, how this Souji's party members survived really? But yes, if Souji didn't awaken Izanagi no Okami, they are pretty much dead in underworld.

"she tries to send the protagonist to the underworld with her "Thousand Curses", but her attacks is repeatedly intervened by the protagonist' comrades, each shielding him from harm."
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Yu_Narukami True Ending part.
What makes her survived even only has 1 hp is that they can't even touch her due to her surrounding fog of lies which can only be seen through by Myriad Truths. But it also DOESN'T MEAN that MYRIAD TRUTHS CAN KILL.

So Souji defeats Izanami DOESN'T MEAN he CAN defeat Nyx, ironically.

Which denied someone's theory that Minato can't kill Nyx and lost his life <but not really lost his life> means Minato < Souji.

And of course Messiah > Izanagi no Okami, probably because Messiah can learn Morning Star with Magic Skill Up while Izanagi no Okami can't and the list goes on.

Another interesting fact:
"Despite having grown significantly and formidably stronger since their past ordeals, both Aigis and Yu ultimately fail to defeat Elizabeth."
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Elizabeth
yet, only Minato did.

And the truth that Messiah looks just like Minato, I can't help but think that finally he has become a god <or at least Jesus Incarnate> inside. And I doubt that Souji can levitate to the Moon like Minato due to his limit World power level. Minato was really something with the Universe power level.

Further more, Minato when leveled up to 99, he instantly got 999 hp and 999 sp unlike Souji. So if anyone say that their power are the same then Minato pretty much win here.

Also I wanna clear the Theory that Souji surpassed the will of mankind is pretty stupid to me. As it's happened that only People in Inaba know the existence of the Midnight Channel as Izanami only choose 3 humans IN INABA to do the EXPERIMENT. It's highly doubt that it was YET on World wide level here. If it really did happen then it's impossible that SEES didn't make a move for that since they has their own Persona and the knowledge about Shadow especially Aigis is the next Wild card after Minato which capable for her to reach the TV world.

While Persona 3, Strega spreads the news about Nyx on the Internet, yet World Wide Level and makes a chaos.
If there is any proof that in the mean time Souji battle against Izanami is also against the Mankind, i would love to see. Otherwise, Izanami sentence is just like a makeup for the last battle so far.

Sum of, Minato > Souji. They are both cool, but Minato has the most impact so far.

HiH? 'xplain.

AyaReiko said:

HiH? 'xplain.

Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth. It's an Etrian Odyssey styled crossover between the playable cast of Persona 3 and Persona 4. The two finally got to meet for real.