I haven't watched Mel for awhile but the news came out of nowhere tbh. So, is this the NDA situation with Rushia all over again?
Mel seems to at least be taking things more gracefully than Rushia, having admitted to messing up and accepting her termination. At least that’s how the official statement makes it sound.
I haven't watched Mel for awhile but the news came out of nowhere tbh. So, is this the NDA situation with Rushia all over again?
Some said it happened on accident, and unfortunately upholding the standard means no ifs, ands, or buts. Not to mention the fact that Cover is a Japanese company first, the culture of stepping down in order to own their mistakes is at play here.
I haven't watched Mel for awhile but the news came out of nowhere tbh. So, is this the NDA situation with Rushia all over again?
Not quite. In Mel's case, the impression I'm getting is that it was accidental or unintended, but NDAs are NDAs. The decision to terminate the contract was mutual by both parties.
When the "Banpire" jokes become real. Didn't watch Mel that much consider her stream times, but when I did, loved the air head good vibes she gave off.
Made those yabai moments all the greater from the lost media from youtube vod purges, "Ah, Carbine" and the signature anime "Wow" on Kiara's Holotalk.
Some said it happened on accident, and unfortunately upholding the standard means no ifs, ands, or buts. Not to mention the fact that Cover is a Japanese company first, the culture of stepping down in order to own their mistakes is at play here.
Japanese company is putting it mildly. I'm still disturbed how every single incident ends up with the talent being "At fault" and new rules for the talents being introduced, rather than actually addressing the issue with the fans and taking personal responsibility.
Japanese company is putting it mildly. I'm still disturbed how every single incident ends up with the talent being "At fault" and new rules for the talents being introduced, rather than actually addressing the issue with the fans and taking personal responsibility.
Who are you suggesting should be taking personal responsibility?
Japanese company is putting it mildly. I'm still disturbed how every single incident ends up with the talent being "At fault" and new rules for the talents being introduced, rather than actually addressing the issue with the fans and taking personal responsibility.
What are you even talking about? Of course an NDA breach is the talents fault, Coco believed that she hit the peak of what she's capable of at Hololive and quit of her own volition, Sana wasn't able to keep up both of her jobs because of health issues and quit because she didn't want to halfass either of them, Magni and Vesper quit because they felt too restricted working in an agency environment, and Rushia was simply too stupid for her own good which lead to her NDA breach. They even allowed Mel to tweet one final time to her fans ffs, they didn't want to fire her, rules are rules, they had to fire her.
What are you even talking about? Of course an NDA breach is the talents fault, Coco believed that she hit the peak of what she's capable of at Hololive and quit of her own volition, Sana wasn't able to keep up both of her jobs because of health issues and quit because she didn't want to halfass either of them, Magni and Vesper quit because they felt too restricted working in an agency environment, and Rushia was simply too stupid for her own good which lead to her NDA breach. They even allowed Mel to tweet one final time to her fans ffs, they didn't want to fire her, rules are rules, they had to fire her.
I wondered why Coco left, and there were a half dozen reasons that felt plausible.
I don't think it's true. NDA is a contract between sides and may be terminated by one of the sides or by mutual agreement between sides. I don't know for sure if violating the NDA is a "victimless crime" in Japan, but judging by my own knowledge - no. Which means that it is the sides who have the will to terminate contract. This is also not a force majeure situation.
Rules aren't crimes. You can break rules or be lax with them, you gave an example of this yourself... Though, Cover is infamous for not being a "White Company" so when they break rules they always say "Sorry".
I don't think it's true. NDA is a contract between sides and may be terminated by one of the sides or by mutual agreement between sides. I don't know for sure if violating the NDA is a "victimless crime" in Japan, but judging by my own knowledge - no. Which means that it is the sides who have the will to terminate contract. This is also not a force majeure situation.
Rules aren't crimes. You can break rules or be lax with them, you gave an example of this yourself... Though, Cover is infamous for not being a "White Company" so when they break rules they always say "Sorry".
Mel signed a contract that defined the terms of her being a Cover employee. If either side breaks their terms of the contract, then the contract is void. Mel breached her contract, accident or not, meaning Cover was contractually obligated to terminate her. Even if they didn't have to fire her, it sets a bad example if they don't. Rushia got terminated for her breach of contract, what's it say about Cover to the fans if Mel doesn't? Looks bad from a corporate perspective, too. No one wants to work with someone who doesn't respect the terms of their contracts.
Also keep in mind, you can be sued for breach of contract. Mel (and Rushia for that matter) is lucky that termination is all she got for it.
Not really sure what your second point was trying to say.
If either side breaks their terms of the contract, then the contract is void.
No. Only the sides of the contract decide whether or not to terminate the contract if one or another condition has been violated. Even if the contract states that the contract must be terminated if there is any violation, it is the sides of the contract who decide whether to follow the contract strict or lax.
blindVigil said:
it sets a bad example if they don't
Well, that is my second point. Bad example of what kind? I see legalist logic in this, their approach is to terrorize (to frighten) anyone who wants to break their own rules. By such logic you should show your employees an iron fist so they all obey your rules. But you can't be too ruthless in Japan, japanese companies often persuade workers to leave "of their "own" free will" so as not to fire them themselves because of strict labor laws. And so I see this as a combined approach: Cover actually wanted to fire Mel immediately, but showed that "it's mutual". Otherwise there is a ton of options to not even let everyone know about it. I don't think general public will know about the details of breaching, so they could act more cunningly and make Mel leave on her own in... 2 weeks, a month or so. Yeah, that still would be pretty hard for fans but nobody would even guess and noone would be blamed. Or even not fire her if that's just a human's mistake.
blindVigil said: Rushia got terminated for her breach of contract, what's it say about Cover to the fans if Mel doesn't?
I don't think they should have terminated her (especially with full channel termination, that is complete barbarism) either. But even one incident after another could begin to change Cover's image and approach.
blindVigil said: No one wants to work with someone who doesn't respect the terms of their contracts.
That's fiction. People are quite forgiving... and short on memory and knowledge. There are even living examples of this in the pool.
I don't think it's true. NDA is a contract between sides and may be terminated by one of the sides or by mutual agreement between sides. I don't know for sure if violating the NDA is a "victimless crime" in Japan, but judging by my own knowledge - no. Which means that it is the sides who have the will to terminate contract. This is also not a force majeure situation.
Rules aren't crimes. You can break rules or be lax with them, you gave an example of this yourself... Though, Cover is infamous for not being a "White Company" so when they break rules they always say "Sorry".
They don't want to show favoritism. Rushia broke NDA, and they fired her, despite being their highest earner. Mel also broke NDA. they had to fire her otherwise people will question why they fired Rushia over it and not Mel.
I don't even watch vtubers but you seem confused on the basic principles of what a contract even is. And you're talking about the company contract guidelines in JAPAN of all places.
Honestly dude, if the mental gymnastics direct your anger towards Cover instead of anything else, that's the best case scenario. It's for the best that people get mad at a faceless company instead of the individual.
Seeing how Mel was a worker of theirs, then yes, it's their own decision to fire her since she broke contract. Mel even agreed with them and decided to not even fight the accusation and accepted her termination.
Seeing how Mel was a worker of theirs, then yes, it's their own decision to fire her since she broke contract. Mel even agreed with them and decided to not even fight the accusation and accepted her termination.
I am absolutely agree with you. I don't know if people didn't quite understand me or just gatekeeping, but I answered to the phrasing I don't like.
Do you ask why? Because I don't like such "idol culture" excuses. "They didn't want to, but they had to", yet they made the rules themselves and that is their decision to terminate the contract publically. You can want and not want different things at the same time, and no one came to them with a warrant either. Some may be satisfied with this situation, others, like me, may not, but I find such excuses completely unacceptable.
Seeing how Mel was a worker of theirs, then yes, it's their own decision to fire her since she broke contract. Mel even agreed with them and decided to not even fight the accusation and accepted her termination.
Yeah despite the fact that it's a termination it's a pretty understandable one with no real bad blood or serious drama behind it. The whole thing feels very unfortunate but when it comes to vtuber terminations this one doesn't feel all that nasty at least.
I am absolutely agree with you. I don't know if people didn't quite understand me or just gatekeeping, but I answered to the phrasing I don't like.
Do you ask why? Because I don't like such "idol culture" excuses. "They didn't want to, but they had to", yet they made the rules themselves and that is their decision to terminate the contract publically. You can want and not want different things at the same time, and no one came to them with a warrant either. Some may be satisfied with this situation, others, like me, may not, but I find such excuses completely unacceptable.
I am absolutely agree with you. I don't know if people didn't quite understand me or just gatekeeping, but I answered to the phrasing I don't like.
Do you ask why? Because I don't like such "idol culture" excuses. "They didn't want to, but they had to", yet they made the rules themselves and that is their decision to terminate the contract publically. You can want and not want different things at the same time, and no one came to them with a warrant either. Some may be satisfied with this situation, others, like me, may not, but I find such excuses completely unacceptable.
What the hell does this have to do with idol culture? This is how literally any company operates. If you sign a contract and then break it, you get fired. As for it being "public termination" that's what fucking happens when the person being fired is a public figure. You can't just fire someone with a public presence and then expect people to not notice something's off. None of this is specific to idol culture, it's just how the world of business works. I guess they could be "nice" and pretend like she chose to graduate without mentioning that she did anything wrong, but it would be really fucking weird to choose to graduate now, when there's been no signs of it coming. It would just look suspicious, and would hurt the fan's trust if it was too obvious someone was lying.
I really don't understand what you're trying to demand here, outside of expecting a major corporation to play fast and loose with its own contracts and play favorites with their talents, and I really don't know why you would want that.
blindVigil said: This is how literally any company operates. If you sign a contract and then break it, you get fired.
No. Not every company, not every violation.
blindVigil said: As for it being "public termination" that's what fucking happens when the person being fired is a public figure. [...] it's just how the world of business works.
Am I wrong in disliking such practices of modern business?
blindVigil said: It would be really fucking weird to choose to graduate now
Yeah, that would be way weirder than an immediate termination. (sarcasm)
blindVigil said: I really don't understand what you're trying to demand here, outside of expecting a major corporation to play fast and loose with its own contracts and play favorites with their talents, and I really don't know why you would want that.
Maybe I demand of them to do the morally right thing of not throwing away their talents like used dolls under the guise of “caring for talents”? Or is real support for talents equals "fast and loose" and "favoritism" in business world? Oh, wait, it is! That's how it actually considered moral in business world - first, you work under your employer that tells you that you and them are a "family' and you need to work hard for the good of the 'family' and then hop and you are just a hired worker and the employer does not bear any responsibility for you. Isn't it? Is it okay that I hate it and actually do care about Mel, her image and well-being, and do not support this quiet hatred "Company always right"?
Gardares said: Am I wrong in disliking such practices of modern business?
Maybe I demand of them to do the morally right thing of not throwing away their talents like used dolls under the guise of “caring for talents”?
When you create your own company, you can set whatever rules you want. Until then, make a petition to the government or the unions or something.
Or is real support for talents equals "fast and loose" and "favoritism" in business world?
You're the one playing fast and loose and have favoritism. In the adult world a contract is a contract is a contract. If you get caught doing shit you get the axe, NO EXCEPTIONS.
bunkhead said: When you create your own company, you can set whatever rules you want.
Ah, that logical fallacy. Classic. Should I even explain that to change the trend, just one company will not be enough, unless of course it monopolizes the entire market?
bunkhead said: make a petition to the government or the unions or something.
I am already doing something. Not as far as useless as petitioning the government - I'm influencing the audience, the base of virtual youtubers.
bunkhead said:
In the adult world a contract is a contract is a contract. If you get caught doing shit you get the axe, NO EXCEPTIONS.
I'm literally working at the company that was caught in price fixing, illegally fired a few workers with false accusations and it doesn't even considered a "black company" in comparison with quite a lot examples I know by my own experience and by hearsay. Sorry, did you say "no exceptions"? "Get the axe"? That way Hololive would be closed by Nintendo back in 2020. But that's not how business works and not how world works.
I am already doing something. Not as far as useless as petitioning the government - I'm influencing the audience, the base of virtual youtubers.
You really shouldn't be trying to educate anybody on how the system works when you don't understand how the system works. Misinformation is worse than no information.
I'm literally working at the company that was caught in price fixing, illegally fired a few workers with false accusations and it doesn't even considered a "black company" in comparison with quite a lot examples I know by my own experience and by hearsay.
I can't believe I have to explain this to you but corrupt companies aren't an exception, they're just flagrantly ignoring how the system is supposed to work in favor of profit. Otherwise they wouldn't be getting in trouble when they get caught. That why it's called corruption!
You really shouldn't be trying to educate anybody on how the system works when you don't understand how the system works. Misinformation is worse than no information.
Is this argumentum ad ignorantiam? My first commentary is about not misinformating people on the subject and while I have my own opinions on how to deal with the situation my first and foremost point is that contract termination is the will of one of the sides or mutual agreement. Everything else is not directly related to the topic
bunkhead said: I can't believe I have to explain this to you but corrupt companies aren't an exception, they're just flagrantly ignoring how the system is supposed to work in favor of profit. Otherwise they wouldn't be getting in trouble when they get caught. That why it's called corruption!
I don't understand why you are explaining this to me. Considering I'm answering to blindVigil and their points are... 1. This is how literally any company operates 2. No one wants to work with someone who doesn't respect the terms of their contracts. Maybe you wanted to write that corrupt companies are an exception?
bunkhead said:
Hmm... there's more to this that the video is leaving out, isn't there?
Sure.
bunkhead: In the adult world a contract is a contract is a contract. If you get caught doing shit you get the axe, NO EXCEPTIONS. gardares: Sorry, did you say "no exceptions"? "Get the axe"? That way Hololive would be closed by Nintendo back in 2020. But that's not how business works and not how world works. bunkhead: That's the first true thing you've said all day.
In this case Cover violated contracts and the law, yet it got away with it without serious consequences, they just deleted and privated the videos. Where's the axe?
In this case Cover violated contracts and the law, yet it got away with it without serious consequences, they just deleted and privated the videos. Where's the axe?
Permissions aren't the fucking same as a business contract. Nintendo allowed them to use their products for profit, but then rescinded permission on select titles. It's not like nintendo was making any money of the girls streams.
Then don't point to a meme video without context. Fuck, don't point at a meme video, period. Point to somebody like Hero Hei or Revsaysdesu or Falseeyed or whoever else does vtuber news.
Do you even give a shit about Mel or are you just exploiting her for wothless social points?
Permissions aren't the fucking same as a business contract.
Yeah, business contract and end-user license agreement isn't the exact same thing, it's a different kind of contract. But "rules are rules", isn't it?
cd_young said:
Nintendo allowed them to use their products for profit
...After the incident and when Cover became an official Nintendo partner, signed a license agreement et cetera. Before that they followed individual rules while being a corporate body.
Why not? Do you need help with searching? I could easily not refered to anything at all, yet I make a link for you to a small and not that heavy in details video with commentaries that explain things. If you wanna do a complete research of the case than do it by yourself, there are the megathread on reddit, there are news articles about this, there are ton of statements (some of them you need to search in the archive because there are bad links). If you want to go for another video, I found you one, just one, because it happened way before "vtuber news" started to grow, but there you go Hero Hei (bad title, I needed to manually search by date)
bunkhead said:
Do you even give a shit about Mel or are you just exploiting her for wothless social points?
Have you read this and this? Let me note that I convey my point of view here calmly, trusting and friendly. Without discriminating people because of their nationality and citizenship or declaring people "antis". If it seems like this to you, please note that this is not true.
Then don't point to a meme video without context. Fuck, don't point at a meme video, period. Point to somebody like Hero Hei or Revsaysdesu or Falseeyed or whoever else does vtuber news.
I wouldn't trust anyone that does 'VTuber news' either, especially so on YouTube. I'd rather just go to trusted members of the community.
Then don't point to a meme video without context. Fuck, don't point at a meme video, period. Point to somebody like Hero Hei or Revsaysdesu or Falseeyed or whoever else does vtuber news.
If you actually follow people like Hero Hei and Reysaysdesu for vtuber news i genuinly feel sorry for you
If you actually follow people like Hero Hei and Reysaysdesu for vtuber news i genuinly feel sorry for you
Last I saw anything about Hero Hei, he was grifting hard on the vtuber scene and constantly doomposting with clickbait titles over every little thing that happened, and I can only assume Revsaysdesu isn't much better. At least Falseeyed, from what I know, mostly just shares exactly what the talents themselves are saying.
I wouldn't trust anyone that does 'VTuber news' either, especially so on YouTube. I'd rather just go to trusted members of the community.
FalseEyeD is pretty good, really more just collecting and organizing what was recently said and announced by vtubers, their companies, and communities directly instead of offering opinions. If you want his opinions, you can watch when he's making the videos live on Twitch, but his YouTube videos are trimmed to reflect just what others have said.
At least Falseeyed, from what I know, mostly just shares exactly what the talents themselves are saying.
GreyOmega4K said:
FalseEyeD is pretty good, really more just collecting and organizing what was recently said and announced by vtubers, their companies, and communities directly instead of offering opinions. If you want his opinions, you can watch when he's making the videos live on Twitch, but his YouTube videos are trimmed to reflect just what others have said.
Both of you miss the point. FalseEyeD's broad focus on just regurgitating official news enables him to build up clout that then gives greater weight to his opinions when he covers drama that isn't contained to official announcements, perpetuates rrats or misinformation, or engages in clickbaiting, and then when he gets called out for that coverage he dwells under the cover of his 'news coverage', it's insidious.
All he does is enable the further normalization of dramatubers in the VTuber space. Hero Hei, RevSaysDesu, Khyo, etc. wouldn't have had the same strength within the space without that prior normalization. There principally cannot be a good 'VTuber news' channel, because whether emerging from within the community or not, they'll inevitably engage in dramabaiting. Dramatubers in general build their careers on bad shit happening to people, regardless of the factual accuracy held within. There's a reason why several fan communities strongly advise against all of them, including him.
While your thoughts on the matter are interesting, they also have to be taken with a lot of salt as given your comments it's pretty clear you have ties with these communities as you can't know a "trusted member" without being a part of those communities. As such, it's clear that you're also then involved in the conflict and drama between these communities and these streamers, and can't be considered an impartial source of information.
Both of you miss the point. FalseEyeD's broad focus on just regurgitating official news enables him to build up clout that then gives greater weight to his opinions when he covers drama that isn't contained to official announcements, perpetuates rrats or misinformation, or engages in clickbaiting, and then when he gets called out for that coverage he dwells under the cover of his 'news coverage', it's insidious.
Do you, like, have actual examples of False in particular doing this? I don't watch his videos too often, but I've never seen him share anything beyond objective information, and a lot of it is positive in nature. You're building him up to be a real piece of shit and you can't really be expecting anyone to just take your word for it, right?
All he does is enable the further normalization of dramatubers in the VTuber space. Hero Hei, RevSaysDesu, Khyo, etc. wouldn't have had the same strength within the space without that prior normalization. There principally cannot be a good 'VTuber news' channel, because whether emerging from within the community or not, they'll inevitably engage in dramabaiting. Dramatubers in general build their careers on bad shit happening to people, regardless of the factual accuracy held within. There's a reason why several fan communities strongly advise against all of them, including him.
I dunno, sure "dramatubers" in general are an obnoxious problem for any community, but the idea that no one is allowed to report on news if it's negative sounds kinda childish to me. It's not like random redditors are fountains of perfectly accurate unbiased knowledge, and good luck discussing anything "controversial" in discord servers, especially official ones. Where exactly are you expecting people to find this information? Who made you the arbiter of spreading information?
Do you, like, have actual examples of False in particular doing this? I don't watch his videos too often, but I've never seen him share anything beyond objective information, and a lot of it is positive in nature. You're building him up to be a real piece of shit and you can't really be expecting anyone to just take your word for it, right?
I'd love to give actual concrete examples of False doing this, but unfortunately one of the things he does is that, whenever he is called out on his bullshit, he just trims out the segment in question from the video and then works to hide complaining comments afterward, or just straight-up privates the offending video, pretending the material never existed and never actually addressing the issue. There's even worse claims I've heard when it comes to False that I explicitly didn't mention because of this.
GreyOmega4K said:
While your thoughts on the matter are interesting, they also have to be taken with a lot of salt as given your comments it's pretty clear you have ties with these communities as you can't know a "trusted member" without being a part of those communities. As such, it's clear that you're also then involved in the conflict and drama between these communities and these streamers, and can't be considered an impartial source of information.
I can't technically deny that, and further relating to the above issue, because it is just broader community wisdom to not trust VTuber drama channels, no one really keeps a complete centralized record of all the offenses they've done, just a wider understanding they aren't to be trusted. Unless someone out there has been saving on-release versions of all of FalseEyeD's videos and keeping record of his comments, replies and discussions elsewhere, I genuinely cannot substantiate my claims. The best I can do is pointing out how many of his videos have involved him discussing drama and it's just him looking at Twitter or Reddit responses, which principally isn't news, but that's an issue with broader journalism in general these days...
blindVigil said: I dunno, sure "dramatubers" in general are an obnoxious problem for any community, but the idea that no one is allowed to report on news if it's negative sounds kinda childish to me. It's not like random redditors are fountains of perfectly accurate unbiased knowledge, and good luck discussing anything "controversial" in discord servers, especially official ones. Where exactly are you expecting people to find this information? Who made you the arbiter of spreading information?
I never said no one is allowed to report on news, just that I do not trust those reporting on it on YouTube. There's profit incentives that shift those 'delivering news' there towards unearnest forms of reporting. Trusting FalseEyeD is like trusting Keemstar or tabloids run by the paparazzi. At least on other parts of the net I can do my own research, piece together what everyone is saying along with what sources they do or don't provide, and draw my conclusions that way.
Yeah, business contract and end-user license agreement isn't the exact same thing, it's a different kind of contract. But "rules are rules", isn't it?
...After the incident and when Cover became an official Nintendo partner, signed a license agreement et cetera. Before that they followed individual rules while being a corporate body.
Hololive isn't a partner to any corporation that makes video games. They ask them for permission to monetize the game company's property. There's no business contract, Nintendo, sony or microsoft are not board members of Cover. I am seriously considering your either a moron, someone who literal doesn't know what he's talking about, or some mindless troll.
I'd love to give actual concrete examples of False doing this, but unfortunately one of the things he does is that, whenever he is called out on his bullshit, he just trims out the segment in question from the video and then works to hide complaining comments afterward, or just straight-up privates the offending video, pretending the material never existed and never actually addressing the issue.
How very convenient... for you.
it is just broader community wisdom to not trust VTuber drama channels
So some random jackass on the internet told you vtuber news channels lie, and you didn't even bother to verify their claims? Did you ever consider that this bastard has a vested interest in making those channels look bad because them reporting on the "drama" makes him look bad?
I never said no one is allowed to report on news, just that I do not trust those reporting on it on YouTube. There's profit incentives that shift those 'delivering news' there towards unearnest forms of reporting.
By that logic you can trust absolutely nothing on the internet because somebody somewhere is always making a profit off of any given piece of the internet.
Hololive isn't a partner to any corporation that makes video games. They ask them for permission to monetize the game company's property. There's no business contract, Nintendo, sony or microsoft are not board members of Cover. I am seriously considering your either a moron, someone who literal doesn't know what he's talking about, or some mindless troll.
It seems that you also need to read this. And no, wrong type of partner. I never said anything about partnership. "Business partner" is different than the partnership, though it could be confusing.
It seems that you also need to read this. And no, wrong type of partner. I never said anything about partnership. "Business partner" is different than the partnership, though it could be confusing.
Regardless. Cover does not have a Licence Agreement with any software company, they are not selling the products, they ask permission to monetize videos showing the content, That's it. No software makers receive royalties or payments from Cover or the talents streaming the videogames they have permission to stream.
It's as simple as "May we show Y game in X's stream?" "Yes, but we ask you follow these rules." That's all.
And before you even start making excuses, these permissions are mere agreements, not legally binding contracts. Nintendo can just as well decide that they can't play their games on stream anymore and there'd be nothing Cover could do about it, because they never signed a contract.
Cover does not have a Licence Agreement with any software company
That's not true at all. What you call "permissions" are the part of the license agreements. And it's not that simple as "-May we? -Yes, but follows rules, please" because that's about national copyright laws, Berne Convention and other different international copyright agreements. Cover, as a corporate body, do have several license agreements of different kinds with software companies such as Sega, Nintendo, VRChat (NB! Sic!), Entegram, Nippon Ichi Software, Wargaming and other companies. And I will not claim that either party doesn't receive any payment from the other party, nor will I claim otherwise.
And before you even start making excuses, these permissions are mere agreements, not legally binding contracts. Nintendo can just as well decide that they can't play their games on stream anymore and there'd be nothing Cover could do about it, because they never signed a contract.
Such "mere agreements" are legally binding. It's an unequal "relationship" between the right owner and the right user or an agreement between right owners, both protected by the state. They signed a contract. Like everybody else that using in any way any work that protected by copyright. It's not quite the same as EULA though.
That's not true at all. What you call "permissions" are the part of the license agreements. And it's not that simple as "-May we? -Yes, but follows rules, please" because that's about national copyright laws, Berne Convention and other different international copyright agreements. Cover, as a corporate body, do have several license agreements of different kinds with software companies such as Sony, Nintendo, VRChat (NB! Sic!), Entegram, Nippon Ichi Software, Wargaming and other companies. And I will not claim that either party doesn't receive any payment from the other party, nor will I claim otherwise.
Well, it's pretty clear you have literally no idea what you're talking about, aside from the fact Sonic is a SEGA property, and you have never heard of Collaborations. There are NO Licencing agreements between Cover and software companies. Streaming guidelines are FOR EVERYONE, even people who don't monetize gaming content.
...aside from the fact Sonic is a SEGA property...
My bad. Corrected
To other things, I'm not going to hit the wall trying to prove you things like how corporate bodies are often separated from individuals and how copyright applies to collaborative works, how Cover do have license agreements with different software companies and how streaming guidelines could be actually not "for everyone". As I see, you are not going to have a reasonable discussion with me, but instead you want a fight, insults and shouting the same phrases. I am not interested in such complete waste of time.
To other things, I'm not going to hit the wall trying to prove you things like how corporate bodies are often separated from individuals and how copyright applies to collaborative works, how Cover do have license agreements with different software companies and how streaming guidelines could be actually not "for everyone". As I see, you are not going to have a reasonable discussion with me, but instead you want a fight, insults and shouting the same phrases. I am not interested in such complete waste of time.
and yet you keep responding to me with the exact same wrong information. Just because you think you're smart, doesn't make you smart.