B4 translation: Mad Verniy is MAD

Oh shit, now Comrade Tiny One look snapped. I repeat: all emergency, Comrade Tiny One look snapped, prepare to evacuation.

Comrade Tiny One is doing the shaft head tilt!

Did Akatsuki accidentally insult glorious Russian culture?

Comrade Tiny One, what are you reading?

Lets integrate Japan!

Unexpectedly Evil. Except not unexpected

America says: "Stay out of Japan, ya damn Commies"

Well, you're not *exactly* wrong there...

But, definitely not right.

ChaosFox said:

America says: "Stay out of Japan, ya damn Commies"

You know, now that I think about it, it's rather surprising that communism didn't take off in Japan of all countries, given their perceived "others before myself" mentality.

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Type-kun said:

You know, now that I think about it, it's rather surprising that communism didn't take off in Japan of all countries, given their perceived "others before myself" mentality.

The Japanese Communist Party is actually rather strong, and holds a non-insignificant amount of seats in the diet even today!

They've been active since 1922, but were deemed illegal by the Meiji government (particularly in regards to their anti-war stance). Interestingly, the American occupation government legalised them, though SCAP neutered them in the 50s.

Overall, it's always been popular - Japan just never went in for 'strong' communism in the Soviet/Maoist vein.

Hibiki just became Fuuka from Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei.

Type-kun said:

You know, now that I think about it, it's rather surprising that communism didn't take off in Japan of all countries, given their perceived "others before myself" mentality.

It wasn't just "others before myself", though. It was, "you're in the same boat as these others, so if you help them, it'll come back around to you," which ultimately tries to play to selfishness, as well.

It was also, specifically, that the old social order was evil and favored those damn bourgeoisie and the people at the top of the social order (at least, in the revolution phase). It's that pitch that has trouble selling in Japan, since Japan is, culturally, much more inclined towards supporting the ruling order/maintaining the status quo over violent revolt against even the more flagrantly corrupt of their overlords. (Russian serfs, by contrast, had suffered centuries of brutal rulership and was always much less socially cohesive, while China's national unity was repeatedly fractured by conquering overlords.)

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NWSiaCB said:

It wasn't just "others before myself", though. It was, "you're in the same boat as these others, so if you help them, it'll come back around to you," which ultimately tries to play to selfishness, as well.

It was also, specifically, that the old social order was evil and favored those damn bourgeoisie and the people at the top of the social order (at least, in the revolution phase). It's that pitch that has trouble selling in Japan, since Japan is, culturally, much more inclined towards supporting the ruling order/maintaining the status quo over violent revolt against even the more flagrantly corrupt of their overlords. (Russian serfs, by contrast, had suffered centuries of brutal rulership and was always much less socially cohesive, while China's national unity was repeatedly fractured by conquering overlords.)

Also, there was a lot of suppression behind the scenes from the ultra right wing political groups in Japan and American interference. Even assassinations of prominent labor activists and politicians.

Paracite said:

The Japanese Communist Party is actually rather strong, and holds a non-insignificant amount of seats in the diet even today!

They've been active since 1922, but were deemed illegal by the Meiji government (particularly in regards to their anti-war stance). Interestingly, the American occupation government legalised them, though SCAP neutered them in the 50s.

Overall, it's always been popular - Japan just never went in for 'strong' communism in the Soviet/Maoist vein.

Thing is... there is no other form of communism.

Because for it to work even in theory the state needs to control everything to dole it out 'fairly', but you are NEVER going to find a nation where everyone agrees to just give up all control of their assets for 'the greater good'. So as can be seen in every single instance of communism ever the state has to forcibly seize assets, punishing those that resist, and generally oppressing the population via dictating how they live in all aspects in order to make sure things are disturbed 'fairly'.

The actual various communist parties in non-failed states where jokes, they were allowed to exist because it was obvious they would never gain the support needed to constitute a threat. (no Communist party has ever gained control of a state by a method outside of violent insurgency that I can recall) The witch hunts and such by some stupid conservatives where pointless stupidity that only gave them a martyr narrative to try and exploit, the only defense you ever actually needed against communism was the unbroken record of failure and oppression of every communism state in history.

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dandan said:

now that's one uncommon sound effect

And it's exactly what it says in Japanese which is even more amazing.

She's scarier than Plasma-chan!

She's doing that SHAFT Head-Tilt.

Type-kun said:

You know, now that I think about it, it's rather surprising that communism didn't take off in Japan of all countries, given their perceived "others before myself" mentality.

Besides what's already mentioned, there's also another good reason for that...

chaosrealm93 said:

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We have a pre-made Communist counter. Nationalist Chinese destroyer Tan Yang (ex-Yukikaze): the lucky one.