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artoria pendragon, saber, irisviel von einzbern, and sola-ui nuada-re sophia-ri (fate and 1 more) drawn by ecchinata

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    So... Can we begin ?

    YAAAAAAAAAAA HOW ARE YOU GUUUUYYYZZZ ?!!
    So I'm officially FINALLY finished with all of what I had to do, and I'll soon resume on the commissions I have waiting :) (Smile)

    Not really a commish here, but a present I had promised to a friend since sooooooooo long ago that it was starting to get urgent as my darling was getting hassled lol

    So here is a DID with the machiavellian Sola-Ui from Fate Zero (absolutely excellent anime!) receiving her guests in her own way...

    And before triggering the diplomatic incident thanks to my eternal lateness XD, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, as well to your fiancée a bit early, and I can't wait to finally meet you both ! ^^ Hope you like your present ! ^^

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     Sola-Ui, Saber, Irisviel © Urobuchi Gen, Type-Moon, Ufotable

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    OMGkillitwithfire
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    FiXaz said:

    err...hmm, couldn't Saber just broke free with brute force or just dematerialize/materialze, in the first place?

    She mainly relies on her sword for strength, I doubt that she has enough raw strength to break free from the ropes, given that she's but a normal girl if without her status as a king.
    Dematerializing though... good point.

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    OMGkillitwithfire said:

    She mainly relies on her sword for strength, I doubt that she has enough raw strength to break free from the ropes, given that she's but a normal girl if without her status as a king.
    Dematerializing though... good point.

    Saber can't dematerialize

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    • KingKyrasiin
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    FiXaz said:

    why?

    She's not a properly summoned heroic spirit. It's why she remembers the events of Fate/Zero in Fate/Stay Night. Most heroic spirits when summoned as servants are copies from the Throne of Heroes made by the Grail but Saber isn't in the Throne because she's not dead. She made a contract moments before her death to fight for the grail for her wish

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    OMGkillitwithfire said:

    She mainly relies on her sword for strength, I doubt that she has enough raw strength to break free from the ropes, given that she's but a normal girl if without her status as a king.
    Dematerializing though... good point.

    She has enough strength. Even without excalibur she can overpower a human. A simple rope wouldnt hold her even if it was magic. She has B ranked strength which is super human levels. To put it more into perspective, Archer has D ranked strength and he effortlessly tosses strong humans around like ragdolls. Even then she has invisible air that she can use to cut the ropes.

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    OMGkillitwithfire said:

    She mainly relies on her sword for strength, I doubt that she has enough raw strength to break free from the ropes, given that she's but a normal girl if without her status as a king.
    Dematerializing though... good point.

    Prana Burst is not a function of her sword.

    doctordark3 said:

    She has enough strength. Even without excalibur she can overpower a human. A simple rope wouldnt hold her even if it was magic. She has B ranked strength which is super human levels. To put it more into perspective, Archer has D ranked strength and he effortlessly tosses strong humans around like ragdolls. Even then she has invisible air that she can use to cut the ropes.

    HA shows that without prana burst she's physically weaker than Rin.
    The B-rank is counting her constant use of Prana Burst.

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    KyteM said:

    HA shows that without prana burst she's physically weaker than Rin.

    How can she be physically weaker, when she has been described to be more muscular than someone like Rin who practises martial arts. You probably shouldn't take HA seriously (neither did Nasu).

    But then again, since the artists uptill now never actually drawn a muscular wowan, they probably either forgot or just pulled another retcon button.

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    frenze said:

    How can she be physically weaker, when she has been described to be more muscular than someone like Rin who practises martial arts. You probably shouldn't take HA seriously (neither did Nasu).

    But then again, since the artists uptill now never actually drawn a muscular wowan, they probably either forgot or just pulled another retcon button.

    I am pretty sure in FSN, when Shirou try dating saber, even shirou said she just as strong as normal girl.

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    astraympx said:

    I am pretty sure in FSN, when Shirou try dating saber, even shirou said she just as strong as normal girl.

    Actually it's the opposite, Shirou said she looks more muscular than Rin when he saw her taking a bath.

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    astraympx said:

    Well I actually skimming through walktrough to get the answer, its in Day 11 UBW Route, when Rin ask Shirou to date. Its after They play baseball.
    https://youtu.be/uh1DmFTeieA?t=187

    Saber relies on Mana Burst to boost her strength. When she was fully alive, her dragon reactor was constantly running so she could keep her mana burst on all the time.

    Without it, she's stuck at being a 14-15 year old girl, due to Caliburn and, later, Avalon constantly keeping her stuck at age 14-15.

    In FHA, she tells Sakura about how she can't gain or lose any weight, unable to gain muscle or fat or lose muscle or fat, due to being made non-aging/eternal youth thanks to Avalon.

    So yeah, compare her to Rin & Shirou who are both physically older than her and can build muscle, and she's SOL.

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