I can understand not wearing the swimsuit after a swim, but doesn't she bring a change of underwear when she's done?

OMGkillitwithfire said:

I can understand not wearing the swimsuit after a swim, but doesn't she bring a change of underwear when she's done?

Making the assumption she ever wears underwear. Given the subs' penchant for always wearing their swimsuits.

I'm guessing they believe in using their sub swimsuits as the undergarments of choice. But she and the other subs look good in those, so I can't blame them.

And that bag. I want one of my own. I still want to go swimming with her.

OMGkillitwithfire said:

I can understand not wearing the swimsuit after a swim, but doesn't she bring a change of underwear when she's done?

She went to the sports club wearing her swimsuit instead of underwear. Suffice to to say, she forgot to pack underwear for the return trip. And nobody wants to wear a wet swimsuit home, so going commando it is!

Keo said:

Might want to at least put on a bra or something. It's reasons like this that people get assaulted.
The clothes you wear affect the way people interact with you. I wish people would at least keep that in mind before they walk around and then get hurt and start crying their eyes out, asking why.

Meanwhile feminist are protesting that men should control their instinct.

now only Hachi left

zankde said:

now only Hachi left

I'm imagining her as a librarian.

zankde said:

now only Hachi left

why only hachi left? if its about submarine part, shouldnt shioi also accounted for? or did i just miss the chapter? :v

oh and. . i hasnt yet to see "whale" in yano toshinori ver :v maybe future release?

taishi_tetora said:

why only hachi left? if its about submarine part, shouldnt shioi also accounted for? or did i just miss the chapter? :v

oh and. . i hasnt yet to see "whale" in yano toshinori ver :v maybe future release?

Also Yuu/Ro and Maru-yu-san.

laisy said:

Meanwhile feminist are protesting that men should control their instinct.

Because rape is clearly the fault of the victims, not the assailants...

Damn rapable women! Don't they know that wearing things that don't conceal every part of their bodies that could possibly be part of a violent person's fetish (read: every part) is grounds for justifiable rape? That's why they should stay indoors in some sort of haram space, only go outside with a male relative or husband, wear a burka, and stay 10 paces behind their Man when they do go out. Otherwise, they're just forcing men to rape them, right?

Clearly, feminists just spend all day trying to think of ways to get raped more often by men!

Because clearly, the alternative implication, that most men don't instinctively go to rape as their default form of sexual gratification of choice, would imply some sort of thing wrong with the individuals espousing these views, and prompt some sort of introspection, and we can't be having any of THAT now, can we?!

taishi_tetora said:

why only hachi left? if its about submarine part, shouldnt shioi also accounted for? or did i just miss the chapter? :v

oh and. . i hasnt yet to see "whale" in yano toshinori ver :v maybe future release?

ah thanks for reminding me about whale

ofc I want to see toshinori version of her

lel

oh right, sorry I missed shioi & co :v

Keo said:

Alright buddy, settle down. We don't want to go nuts here and turn this into some argument of right and wrong and such.
Let's just say that both parties are to blame. It is the males'(and females) fault because no decent, civilized person would assault anyone period.
But sometimes it is the other victims fault because the way you dress DO impact other people's reaction. Not just females but males as well. And not just rape either but robbery and such.

Rather than just yelling at one side and not thinking about the other, the most educated thing to do is to teach awareness of how to dress and how to be careful not to provoke anyone, for both male and female. Sure you have the right to express yourselves and freedom to how to dress, but you have to think about how freedom and expressing yourselves isn't always the best idea.

You can walk around dressed in a jacket made of $100 bills and gold and diamonds everywhere while constantly playing with your Ipad and Gold Applewatch, but just don't cry that you didn't see it coming when you get robbed and beaten up by some crooks.

Keo said in the next post:

Hachi is turning on my inner moral guardian. Now maybe, JUST maybe, it's not a good idea to teach a class while wearing clothes where your bra can be seen through and crossing your legs like that when your skirt only reach up to your hip. I'm sure being a bit more conservative can help improve your classes' attention toward what you are teaching.

Pants are both comfortable and stylish you know. Just saying.

I might as well put these together...

You might want to lecture me on not laying blame on the victim, but I was arguing against laisy's post that specifically stated NONE of the blame was on the rapist, and all of it was on the victim.

And, interestingly, right after saying that both sides need to take responsibility, you make another comment that expressly focuses on women taking responsibility for how (straight) men react to them, without talking about the personal responsibility of the men in question... And call it your "inner moral guardian", presumably due to women who dress like that needing the council of such a guardian. (For that matter, there are plenty of suggestive images in this pool, so I'd say there's a decent chance you only started thinking moral guardians after posting here...)

Now, while I'll certainly agree that certain behaviors are more risky than others, and people should probably lock their front doors at night to stop burglars from getting in, it is functionally a concession to the criminals to declare it the victim's problem that someone broke into their house.

If someone forgets to lock their front door, or worse, leaves it open, that's not an open invitation to steal from them. It still reflects upon your own moral character far more than theirs if the only reason you aren't stealing from your neighbors right this moment is that you think there's a chance you'd fail or get caught. If you are only barely containing a constant urge to steal things, and the slightest bit of opportunity drives you compulsively to steal, it's not something everyone shares, it's because you're a kleptomaniac. The only people who blame the homeowner first and foremost for being so easy to steal from are thieves who want to avoid their own moral responsibility for their own actions.

There were rapists at times when women wore dresses where showing ankle was considered scandalous. There are still plenty of rapists in countries that have Burkas. The standards of what even qualifies as "conservative" dress are based solely upon what women wear regularly, anyway, and nobody seems to care in societies you see in National Geographic where women go topless regularly.

Long story short, you can't pretend the degree of blame is somehow equal. Just as a kleptomaniac is driven to steal because of their own internal compulsions, and, as with a case like Winona Ryder, would do so regardless of need or the security precautions done to prevent it, rapists rape because of what's inside them, and would do so regardless of what a woman was wearing. Recidivism is rampant in such pathological crimes specifically because they are compulsions that can only be stopped with incarceration.

Seems like my random comment has started wall of text ^_^;

The irony here is you (Keo) take fictional comics too seriously and you have proven misogyny ("female is to blame and the male is always right" kind responses). If by "conservative" you mean "male role model 1940" that's right. You are very conservative.

rom_collector said:

The irony here is you (Keo) take fictional comics too seriously and you have proven misogyny ("female is to blame and the male is always right" kind responses). If by "conservative" you mean "male role model 1940" that's right. You are very conservative.

Well, I guess I can't deny that I take fictional things too seriously but hey, hey, hey...I am not anywhere close to misogyny. It's not that I think that females are to blame and the male is right or anything.
Just that both can be blamed and both can be right every now and then. Although, it might rub off as such.

[...]
True that we shouldn't pretend the blame is equal or anything like that but it's just that whenever people talk about whose fault and whose it's always one-sided. Some responsibility is needed on both-sides. You can't expect everyone to be model citizens and good people.
[...]

It should be one-sided though. Nobody is raped because they want to. Even when dressing in a "slutty" way or being stark naked does not give any right for anybody to rape the person in question.

EDIT: I'm quite conservative btw.

Keo said:

Well, I guess I can't deny that I take fictional things too seriously but hey, hey, hey...I am not anywhere close to misogyny. It's not that I think that females are to blame and the male is right or anything.
Just that both can be blamed and both can be right every now and then. Although, since I'm a guy it might rub off as such.

Damn....

While there are girls here, most of those who reply you are guys too. The martyr and "pretend a minority" act doesn't work here. All we are saying is you to try and chill out. Try do not make a big fuss about anything that obviously and somehow it's related to your real life.

rom_collector said:

While there are girls here, most of those who reply you are guys too. The martyr and "pretend a minority" act doesn't work here. All we are saying is you to try and chill out. Try do not make a big fuss about anything that obviously and somehow it's related to your real life.

Well, I guess you're right. My apologizes.
I get quite worked up when it comes to certain things but know that I never mean to offend.

I've put out a new H-volume.
'Nightlife together with 30-Year old Yuubari ①'

This is my most important part