You know, translating it into German really drives home the whole "Nazi" thing in a way the original doesn't intend to.
While she's cute and all, I really can't get into Bisko or Prinz because of their blatantly wearing the Iron Cross. Maybe it's weird, but I can look past the nationalism and crimes of the IJN, but it's a little too ingrained in me to see anything Nazi as cutesy...
You know, translating it into German really drives home the whole "Nazi" thing in a way the original doesn't intend to.
While she's cute and all, I really can't get into Bisko or Prinz because of their blatantly wearing the Iron Cross. Maybe it's weird, but I can look past the nationalism and crimes of the IJN, but it's a little too ingrained in me to see anything Nazi as cutesy...
That's the main fact. Some people forgot that she may not showing her "true" personality.
That seems a bit sideways, the Iron Cross has a long & storied service, as with any other military decoration. It's still being used today. Does the Nazi swastika pollute affiliated symbols for you? Especially since WWI isn't mentioned?
As for the IJN, well, the naval ensign is still in use. Not so for the chrysanthemum crest it seems.
If nothing else, the Western world doesn't appear to hold WWII's Pacific Theater to the same importance or significance to the European Theater. I'd imagine even more so if one has associations with Europe. Not sure if it's the media I've been viewing, or lack thereof, but East Asia isn't as contemplative about the Pacific Theater &, if so, perhaps that has some effects? Well, beyond the resurgence of issues in the past few years.
Regardless, given both nation's history in that war, if German kanmusu are hiding a 'true' personality, then the Japanese kanmusu most certainly are too.
Japanese guys are not taking the Iron Cross as seriously as Western does, because Imperial Japanese Army worked with Nazis, and today their kids are taught as they were trying to do something good. I've been in Japan, saw their history books, and realized how many parts of those are twisted for propaganda. Probably that's the reason why they're still using the Rising Sun flag, and also the Iron Cross and Swastika.
Japanese guys are not taking the Iron Cross as seriously as Western does, because Imperial Japanese Army worked with Nazis, and today their kids are taught as they were trying to do something good. I've been in Japan, saw their history books, and realized how many parts of those are twisted for propaganda. Probably that's the reason why they're still using the Rising Sun flag, and also the Iron Cross and Swastika.
It's more that the Japanese just don't care. Maybe we shouldn't either.
Japanese guys are not taking the Iron Cross as seriously as Western does, because Imperial Japanese Army worked with Nazis, and today their kids are taught as they were trying to do something good. I've been in Japan, saw their history books, and realized how many parts of those are twisted for propaganda. Probably that's the reason why they're still using the Rising Sun flag, and also the Iron Cross and Swastika.
What about the iron cross? It's the normal military symbol that is still in use today.
I don't mean the shape, but what it's supposed to be symbolizing. A swastika used by someone who is Jain or Hindu is a symbol of peace. In this case, the Iron Cross is there specifically to say "she's a Nazi".
d011 said:
It's more that the Japanese just don't care. Maybe we shouldn't either.
Somehow, I don't think I can see apathy as a virtue...
RoachGreythorn said:
Japanese guys are not taking the Iron Cross as seriously as Western does, because Imperial Japanese Army worked with Nazis, and today their kids are taught as they were trying to do something good. I've been in Japan, saw their history books, and realized how many parts of those are twisted for propaganda. Probably that's the reason why they're still using the Rising Sun flag, and also the Iron Cross and Swastika.
Yeah, that stuff really bugs me, too. It's not like anybody had clean hands in World War 2, no matter how much it tries to get hyped up as the great shining example of Good Versus Evil That Actually Existed In The Real World. The whitewashing of history to hide the things people did for jingoistic purposes is extremely aggravating, whether it's denying what Pleasure Girls were or Internment Camps for the Japanese or Terror Bombings being done even though they had no valid military purpose.
Yeah, that stuff really bugs me, too. It's not like anybody had clean hands in World War 2, no matter how much it tries to get hyped up as the great shining example of Good Versus Evil That Actually Existed In The Real World. The whitewashing of history to hide the things people did for jingoistic purposes is extremely aggravating, whether it's denying what Pleasure Girls were or Internment Camps for the Japanese or Terror Bombings being done even though they had no valid military purpose.
Forgive, but you can't forget.
lets not forget unit 731 the acts by the Japanese and the pardoning of the bastards in exchange for the data by the Americans
I don't mean the shape, but what it's supposed to be symbolizing. A swastika used by someone who is Jain or Hindu is a symbol of peace. In this case, the Iron Cross is there specifically to say "she's a Nazi".
Again, the iron cross is still used by Germany's army today. You can find it on jets, tanks and ships from today.
Looks like my little Schweinehund...
Original has "kuzu Teitoku (trash Admiral)" read as "buta (pig)" in furigana....needs some, shall we say, strafing.
