Are breasts being too big really a reason to flag if the artist meant it that way? If so, that means most of the gigantic_breasts tag should be flagged.
Are breasts being too big really a reason to flag if the artist meant it that way? If so, that means most of the gigantic_breasts tag should be flagged.
Exactly, I don't think this should be deleted just because some viewers here prefer flat chests. There are soooo many disproportional drawings on this site, not just related to breasts, but they're allowed to stay so what gives?
To me is valid the deletion, not only for the breast. The proportions are just irreal even for a plump girl, her height, her legs, those tiny arms. There is a lot of bad proportions with this picture.
Their breast only it isn't an argument for an appeal, if you read better is for bad proportions the deletion in other words was qualified as Grotesque.
Now, there are a lot of post that were approved, but that not an excuse since in each post there is a discussion, even some images are in negative.
I had a good laugh reading some of your comments. Rate it questionable? Flagged because some viewers prefer flat chests? This should stay because others like this are approved? This image is a clear violation of Danbooru TOS. I'll quote it for you, since you do not seem to be familiar with it.
Grotesque: Any depiction of extreme mutilation, extreme bodily distension, feces, or bodies that are far outside the realm of normal human proportion (for example, breasts that are larger than three heads in size or penises that are larger than two heads in size).
A person tried to explain rationally why this should be deleted and you voted down his comment. Others pictures approved? Just let me get some free time, and I'll flag each and every one violating the TOS myself.
If that the case, then don't bother having the tag "gigantic breasts" in, just god damn auto-delete 1.2k picture tagged with it To be honest, even the point of Grotesque is ridiculus in the first place, from my point of view As long as there is no Hentai included, why bother ?
P/s : Want to flag every single one of them your self, be ready to say goodbye to your weekend because somewhere, someone will sure to hell appeal it like assholes
If that the case, then don't bother having the tag "gigantic breasts" in, just god damn auto-delete 1.2k picture tagged with it To be honest, even the point of Grotesque is ridiculus in the first place, from my point of view As long as there is no Hentai included, why bother ?
When it comes to Body parts and Proportions is good to read the Wiki, they show us the parameters to classify each image.
For example, In daanboru we have: Flat Chest to Gigantic Breast tags, those are your first parametersto upload an image (Ecchi in this case, this applies to Hentai, and Safe Images too). So If you combine Gigantic breast, tiny arms, plump legs, the body entirely is bad proportioned. In other words, they exceeds a certain size and they should be deleted. Also I think, personal opinions aren't valid to go against those Wikis (descriptions).
But if my opinion is required, when it comes to Ecchi and Hentai images, the breasts are deceitful (That should be the word, no?)
For example, In daanboru we have: Flat Chest to Gigantic Breast tags, those are your first parametersto upload an image (Ecchi in this case, this applies to Hentai, and Safe Images too). So If you combine Gigantic breast, tiny arms, plump legs, the body entirely is bad proportioned. In other words, they exceeds a certain size and they should be deleted. Also I think, personal opinions aren't valid to go against those Wikis (descriptions).
But if my opinion is required, when it comes to Ecchi and Hentai images, the breasts are deceitful (That should be the word, no?)
But then again, how can a picture be flagged as "Bad porpotion" if that's the artist's style (See his other pictures) Please don't tell me personal option is not applied there, just for this one If the flagger can point out the entire body is a bad porpotion, then it's fine. But judging on breasts only (As stated up there, unless I misunderstanding his/her point completly) to call it bad porpotion is another thing.
P/s: Yes, deceitful is correct, although that word can be used to describe 95% of pictures with big breasts
Exactly, I don't think this should be deleted just because some viewers here prefer flat chests. There are soooo many disproportional drawings on this site, not just related to breasts, but they're allowed to stay so what gives?
So, anything less than an G-cup is considered "flat" now?
Besides that, (as some recent arguments have been proving,) the standards on Danbooru have been getting far too lax, and there are a ton of images that SHOULDN'T be allowed here that are staying, anyway, but it's much easier to upload terrible posts than it is to delete them.
But then again, how can a picture be flagged as "Bad porpotion" if that's the artist's style (See his other pictures) Please don't tell me personal option is not applied there, just for this one If the flagger can point out the entire body is a bad porpotion, then it's fine. But judging on breasts only (As stated up there, unless I misunderstanding his/her point completly) to call it bad porpotion is another thing.
P/s: Yes, deceitful is correct, although that word can be used to describe 95% of pictures with big breasts
This will be my last post here, this discussion is overextended at this rate.
I couldnΒ΄t tell why the user flag only for the breast (That why I used the word "deceitful", because, when it comes to breast, most of the users fell into the perception and they forget about the Wikis, just go and upload with the idea: if the breast are big it's hentai, just let it be).
I see the other pics of the artist, but I know what most of the pictures on Daanboru are images that fits with the standars of the Danbooru TOS. It's the criteria of the uploader what are we discussing about. And now the artist, just let it be in his Pixiv.
Well, both of us understand the main topic here are the proportions, so, it's just be more exigent when you Upload/Flag/Appeal a post, because even if the artist style is that, not always, or most of the images could fit the idea of certain websites.
Thank you, I don't want to keep this discussion for too long either
Since other pics of the artist with similar layout on this site is kept, I find it straight for this one to be deleted (With a not-so-good reason, too)
Moreover, I think the criteria of, not only the uploader, but also the flagger, is put into account here, but that's another story, so I don't want an argument about it here
Just want to say: Next time if you (Whoever flagged this post) are about to change a post's status, please make sure to be able to give a clear explanation so that people won't question about it
Yeah, they had that ... And then they had this, and this, and this Same style, same artist, clear approvement, no argument at all How on earth can people explain that ?
Yeah, they had that ... And then they had this, and this, and this Same style, same artist, clear approvement, no argument at all How on earth can people explain that ?
I suppose nobody was looking.
I can flag those for you too, so that it's fair and consistent, if you want.
"Bad Proportions" alone is an entirely valid reason for an image to be deleted, as are disproportionate breasts, as already explained in the comments here.
Yes, which is proved wrong, since the picture as a whole is not "Bad Porportion" at all, it's the way the artist draw them for Christ sake (Cause it's clear that this is not some random mistake that the artist made) If gigantic breasts is considered disproportionate, then it's clrearly that a lot of Danbooru's stuffs shouldn't be exist in the first place
(I'm not even a BB fan and I have to discuss with other people about this kind of stuffs, it's so awkward -_- )
Yes, which is proved wrong, since the picture as a whole is not "Bad Porportion" at all, it's the way the artist draw them for Christ sake (Cause it's clear that this is not some random mistake that the artist made) If gigantic breasts is considered disproportionate, then it's clrearly that a lot of Danbooru's stuffs shouldn't be exist in the first place
(I'm not even a BB fan and I have to discuss with other people about this kind of stuffs, it's so awkward -_- )
The word "proof" does not mean what you think it means.
And yes, that's exactly right. There are a ton of images on Danbooru that shouldn't be, this being one of many. Simply because someone is an awful artist "on purpose" doesn't make the art any less awful. Sadly, it's just that it's far more difficult to flag them all than it is for people to upload bad posts.
So, basically, all breasts that is too big than it should be (Dont even know if that "Should be" is right or not) is considered "Bad Porportion", even if it is on purpose, is that the case ? (Focus on breast, because clearly that's the reason for the flag)
So, basically, all breasts that is too big than it should be (Dont even know if that "Should be" is right or not) is considered "Bad Porportion", even if it is on purpose, is that the case ? (Focus on breast, because clearly that's the reason for the flag)
If they're three times the volume of the head, yes. That is what is expressly written in the rules.
Besides which, when you flag a post, the tips specifically say that a good reason to flag a post is, "Bad Proportions: Extremely large breasts or enormous penises", and those are defined as three times the volume of a head or twice the volume of a head, respectively. Whoever did this flagging obviously just copied off the suggestion for flagging, presumably in an effort to try to comply.
Again, saying that other artwork is worse than this isn't an excuse, it just highlights other works that also need deleting.
If they're three times the volume of the head, yes. That is what is expressly written in the rules.
Besides which, when you flag a post, the tips specifically say that a good reason to flag a post is, "Bad Proportions: Extremely large breasts or enormous penises", and those are defined as three times the volume of a head or twice the volume of a head, respectively. Whoever did this flagging obviously just copied off the suggestion for flagging, presumably in an effort to try to comply.
Again, saying that other artwork is worse than this isn't an excuse, it just highlights other works that also need deleting.
Yes, so does rigidly following tips when flagging stuff, because clearly that was what the flagger did, and obviously that was what people didn't approve. I dont say the rules are bad, although their criterias are really stupid, from my point of view in this case And to be clear, I didn't mention those pics as excuses, cause it was upload from almost a year ago, so it's nonsense if no one notice, not one, but many artwork from just an artist
(Just for fun, next time people who make the rules should make it five or ten times, that will be more acceptable for those breast lovers out there)
Yes, so does rigidly following tips when flagging stuff, because clearly that was what the flagger did, and obviously that was what people didn't approve. I dont say the rules are bad, although their criterias are really stupid, from my point of view in this case And to be clear, I didn't mention those pics as excuses, cause it was upload from almost a year ago, so it's nonsense if no one notice, not one, but many artwork from just an artist
(Just for fun, next time people who make the rules should make it five or ten times, that will be more acceptable for those breast lovers out there)
The rules were added for a reason. They weren't beamed down from aliens, they were made because that's how a majority of users want Danbooru to be, and there are people who get seriously disturbed by certain types of images.
There are some images that use the guro tag, but every couple months, there's another big uproar over someone who takes serious offense at those images. Likewise, there are people who really hate these types of severe and purposefully fetishized bad proportions images, and the person who flagged this image was likely one, but decided to stick to the letter of the rules.
Besides which, to turn your own argument around, since when does the person following the rules have a weaker case in a contest sent to the janitors and mods have a weaker case than the person who is arguing that the rules don't matter? If everyone loves these images so much, why is there any debate about this at all?
Well we all know the flagger stuck with the rule, so that's why I said he/she was rigidly And, to raise a question, if the case was strong enough, then why there're peopple appealing this flag ?
Rules are not from the sky, but it does not mean their appliance are right everytime Also, I've noticed other pictures of the artist that've been approved b4 are getting flagged now, so I guess people are having attention again, tks for that anyway
And I seriously doubt there are any extreme content here, so yeah, I did not approve this flag (And 2 more, too, but can only appeal 1 in a day, so screw me =)) )
Anyway, since no one approve this post, so may be it has a higer chance to be deleted
Konekochan said: Rules are not from the sky, but it does not mean their appliance are right everytime
They are very right this time (and the other three times you linked in the deletion appeal thread) and I am actually surprised with the amount of appeals that are much otherwise. First of all, just because a rule-breaking picture is tagged with something, doesn't make it immune from the flags/ToS. I am not sure what spawned the mentality of 'hey, there is an accepted tag describing it so it must be K!'. Nope. "Since when does breast matter?" - I don't know, since, like, forever? The mention of gargantuan boobage is there at least ever since I arrived on the site, pretty sure it's there around twice longer than that. Proportions on this one are in hell either, those legs wouldn't be capable of carrying the spine-breaking appendages. She also appears not to have any back whatsoever, she definitely doesn't lean that much to justify the rather abrupt ending of her arse. Would you be happier if it had a flag 'terrible proportions'? Of course you wouldn't, because hate train would immediately assume the breasts, while it's not quite necessarily so (though they are rule-breaking and I'd be inclined to neg record the eventual approver (which I bloody well hope this one won't find) for approving rule-breaking imagery. ) This comment would have never happened if you just complied to that it collides with statements in the Terms of Service (which it does), instead of sticking to some senseless crusade, one which I'd put all my efforts to smite down if I noticed it sooner.
Bloody right mate, I've dead stuck in here for days :)
About what I mention in the appeal section
If you have time to read what I wrote in that section, which I thank you for having such time, then I hope you know that the same problem has been Resolved for 2 years b4 this (See the Komachi post in my post in the forum) ,which mean that sb had already come up with those problem, and it was done, and the other 2 didn't even have flagged, so I dont see a reason why this post has to encounter such thing in the first place
What you said about porportion, and yes, here we go again
The pictures is not that extremely disturbing, although is was somehow "Bad porportion" (For Christ sake I dont even know who set up the damn criteria for "Bad porportion". I would have had a talk with the guy), which is, I guess what whoever appeal this post are thinking, not a good (I dont say it's not valid) reason for deletion
Would you be happier if it had a flag 'terrible proportions'? Of course you wouldn't, because hate train would immediately assume the breasts, while it's not quite necessarily so (though they are rule-breaking and I'd be inclined to neg record the eventual approver (which I bloody well hope this one won't find) for approving rule-breaking imagery. )
Well we already have bad_porportions tag. I'm not sure if we can tag this post with that, and as far as I know many of those post tagged with that is still intact, so yeah, I wouldn't mind if we have terrible_porportion, if that tag can exist in the first place (Unless there is a difference between those two, which my brain can not understand)
And of course people will focus on the breasts, because that's what the flag focus on
Bad proportions: extremely large breasts - 3 days ago
What else can we do ?
This comment would have never happened if you just complied to that it collides with statements in the Terms of Service (which it does), instead of sticking to some senseless crusade, one which I'd put all my efforts to smite down if I noticed it sooner.
Well the ToS and it appliances is the main topic in the discussion, indeed, just sayin if one post is collides with the ToS doesn't mean that it's done for, automatically (As I remember from the forum)
P/s (No offensive, gezz I had to use that term alot today =)) ) You're talking like I'm a minless TH BB fan, but seriously, people had come up with "better" idea in the other disscussion (The Komachi post, too ), which I dont think is less senseless than what I am doing here, so no, I dont really notice about the senselessness to be honest And seriously I don't want to type this much :v