I am the creator of this illustration. I can post the specified words using the X account as proof. Reposting is very annoying. Please delete it.
If I may why do you dislike it being here, Danbooru links the source and credits you so I fail to see the issue, you can think of it as free advertising for your art.
If I may why do you dislike it being here, Danbooru links the source and credits you so I fail to see the issue, you can think of it as free advertising for your art.
The reason I dislike having my work posted on danbooru is that I don't feel comfortable with my creations spreading beyond my control. I want my work to be shared and enjoyed within the SNS and posting sites I manage. If I ever want to promote it in other communities, I'll do it myself. If reposting on danbooru was done with the good intention of spreading my work, I'd be much happier if it were shared in a way I could see directly—like reposting within SNS—rather than re-uploading it to another site.
I am Japanese, and I believe there may be differences in values. In fact, many Japanese creators explicitly state “Unauthorized Reposting & AI Training Prohibited” on their illustrations. This is because they prioritize protecting their work over its dissemination. I sincerely hope you understand that this reluctance stems from cultural differences.
The reason I dislike having my work posted on danbooru is that I don't feel comfortable with my creations spreading beyond my control. I want my work to be shared and enjoyed within the SNS and posting sites I manage. If I ever want to promote it in other communities, I'll do it myself. If reposting on danbooru was done with the good intention of spreading my work, I'd be much happier if it were shared in a way I could see directly—like reposting within SNS—rather than re-uploading it to another site.
I am Japanese, and I believe there may be differences in values. In fact, many Japanese creators explicitly state “Unauthorized Reposting & AI Training Prohibited” on their illustrations. This is because they prioritize protecting their work over its dissemination. I sincerely hope you understand that this reluctance stems from cultural differences.
Danbooru’s whole purpose is preserving and cataloging art, making it easier to find, no ill intent is to be had (and given how much has been posted here you can tell the people here do quite like it), The reason being sites like Pixiv or Twitter or the like are a lot harder to navigate so Danbooru’s tagging makes it a lot easier to find art one is looking for
Danbooru’s whole purpose is preserving and cataloging art, making it easier to find, no ill intent is to be had (and given how much has been posted here you can tell the people here do quite like it), The reason being sites like Pixiv or Twitter or the like are a lot harder to navigate so Danbooru’s tagging makes it a lot easier to find art one is looking for
it gets more annoying if artist decided to "dissappear" and all those years of artwork in the internet dissappear too which happen very often
I am Japanese, and I believe there may be differences in values. In fact, many Japanese creators explicitly state “Unauthorized Reposting & AI Training Prohibited” on their illustrations. This is because they prioritize protecting their work over its dissemination. I sincerely hope you understand that this reluctance stems from cultural differences.
I don't think it's due to cultural differences, at least not between Japan and other countries. Plenty of Western artists don't want their art being reposted either, and some Japanese artists are okay with having their work on here. I think the actual differences in values are between artists from all nations that want to maintain exclusive control over their art and archivists that want to preserve as much as possible.
Regardless, no matter what your reasons are, as long as you fill out the DMCA request form correctly, your wishes to have your art removed will be respected.
Danbooru’s whole purpose is preserving and cataloging art, making it easier to find, no ill intent is to be had (and given how much has been posted here you can tell the people here do quite like it), The reason being sites like Pixiv or Twitter or the like are a lot harder to navigate so Danbooru’s tagging makes it a lot easier to find art one is looking for
Does that mean it's acceptable to disregard the creator's wishes if it makes something easier to find? Even if the uploader has no malicious intent, we can't guarantee all users are well-intentioned. Wherever people gather, a certain number of malicious individuals will be present. It's the same on the social media platforms I use.
If something I posted is misused by someone, I would only criticize the person who misused it. But if it was misused because it was reposted on danbooru, would danbooru or the uploader take responsibility? While actually investigating, I confirmed that images reposted on danbooru were being reposted again on other reposting sites. I also found posts where the AI illustration prompt included “maa_(forsythia1729)” (I've never used that notation myself, so it's definitely from danbooru). Who will take responsibility for this? If no one will, then please refrain from reposting to danbooru.
it gets more annoying if artist decided to "dissappear" and all those years of artwork in the internet dissappear too which happen very often
Does that mean you're ignoring creators who hold the copyright and want their work removed? Of course, some creators do delete their work. This is often done to protect their own creations. I've also hidden my posted images on pixiv recently because, starting a few days ago, all my works began getting reposted on danbooru. I wouldn't have done this if they hadn't been reposted. The creators are the victims here.
I don't think it's due to cultural differences, at least not between Japan and other countries. Plenty of Western artists don't want their art being reposted either, and some Japanese artists are okay with having their work on here. I think the actual differences in values are between artists from all nations that want to maintain exclusive control over their art and archivists that want to preserve as much as possible.
Regardless, no matter what your reasons are, as long as you fill out the DMCA request form correctly, your wishes to have your art removed will be respected.
Of course, there are some Japanese people who don't mind it, and I understand that there are also some foreigners who dislike it. At least, this is the trend I've noticed while interacting with many Japanese users. I'm still unsure about filing a DMCA request due to safety concerns, but I would at least like them to stop reposting new illustrations that I post from now on. :-/
Does that mean it's acceptable to disregard the creator's wishes if it makes something easier to find? Even if the uploader has no malicious intent, we can't guarantee all users are well-intentioned. Wherever people gather, a certain number of malicious individuals will be present. It's the same on the social media platforms I use.
If something I posted is misused by someone, I would only criticize the person who misused it. But if it was misused because it was reposted on danbooru, would danbooru or the uploader take responsibility? While actually investigating, I confirmed that images reposted on danbooru were being reposted again on other reposting sites. I also found posts where the AI illustration prompt included “maa_(forsythia1729)” (I've never used that notation myself, so it's definitely from danbooru). Who will take responsibility for this? If no one will, then please refrain from reposting to danbooru.
Danbooru bans AI art, Someone could grab your art of Pixiv or anywhere else and throw it into an AI too.
Does that mean you're ignoring creators who hold the copyright and want their work removed? Of course, some creators do delete their work. This is often done to protect their own creations. I've also hidden my posted images on pixiv recently because, starting a few days ago, all my works began getting reposted on danbooru. I wouldn't have done this if they hadn't been reposted. The creators are the victims here.
He's not talking about DMCA's he's talking about artists accounts being deleted for whatever reason, heck I've seen some particularly edgy artists get banned off Twitter or the like, or could be for any other reason, doesn't mean they do or don't want the art saved.
Danbooru bans AI art, Someone could grab your art of Pixiv or anywhere else and throw it into an AI too.
Hmm... Even if the AI art has nothing to do with danbooru, I would prefer it not to be reposted because there is a possibility of trouble... So in the end, does this mean that the creator's request not to repost it will be ignored?
He's not talking about DMCA's he's talking about artists accounts being deleted for whatever reason, heck I've seen some particularly edgy artists get banned off Twitter or the like, or could be for any other reason, doesn't mean they do or don't want the art saved.
I see, I understand that point. Since I'm reading the Japanese translation, I might have misinterpreted the nuance. But I don't know if that's a valid reason to repost it. Even if that person is gone, the illustration still belongs to them. But I agree it's sad when an illustration you like suddenly disappears. :<
I can only speak for myself, but I personally upload art to Danbooru to preserve works. There is an artist called mery (yangmalgage) who made a lot of Hyouka art, and they deleted all their art on Twitter because of harassment and went on hiatus. 1.6k pieces of art has been preserved because of Danbooru. If we respected their wishes to not repost their art, you wouldn't be able to see their art today.
Click here to see the number of posts I've uploaded that the artists have deleted. Over 700 art I've managed to save, and that gives me encouragement to upload more.
As for your art, your only option is to submit a DMCA. We can't help you any further than this.
I also found posts where the AI illustration prompt included “maa_(forsythia1729)” (I've never used that notation myself, so it's definitely from danbooru). Who will take responsibility for this?
The responsibility is on the AI users. We are not affiliated with them. As someone else said, even if your art is not on Danbooru, they are able to train their AI models by scraping Pixiv and other sites.
I can only speak for myself, but I personally upload art to Danbooru to preserve works. There is an artist called mery (yangmalgage) who made a lot of Hyouka art, and they deleted all their art on Twitter because of harassment and went on hiatus. 1.6k pieces of art has been preserved because of Danbooru. If we respected their wishes to not repost their art, you wouldn't be able to see their art today.
Click here to see the number of posts I've uploaded that the artists have deleted. Over 700 art I've managed to save, and that gives me encouragement to upload more.
As for your art, your only option is to submit a DMCA. We can't help you any further than this.
The responsibility is on the AI users. We are not affiliated with them. As someone else said, even if your art is not on Danbooru, they are able to train their AI models by scraping Pixiv and other sites.
I know that artist too. They were all over the news. Did that artist express a desire to prohibit reposting? If so, shouldn't we respect that...? While many people might have been happy, aren't we disregarding the creator who deserves the most respect...? It's already sad enough that they had to stop activities due to harassment, but to then have their wish to prohibit reposting ignored... I feel so sorry for the creator... :'-(
Then we just have opposite viewpoints and probably won't come to an agreement. I value preserving art from creators, and you value respecting the artist wishes even at the cost of losing art.
Then we just have opposite viewpoints and probably won't come to an agreement. I value preserving art from creators, and you value respecting the artist wishes even at the cost of losing art.
That seems to be the case. I believe that the creator's thoughts come first and that works should not be freely handled by anyone other than the creator. I'm glad that this discussion has shown that danbooru users don't care about the creators themselves. Thank you.:-c
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