My account was hacked, or what?

My recent thread about gamecube got edited, then deleted, without warning.

Why? Did someone hack my account? Or did I disobey some rule, and an admin deleted my message as a result?

I really hope it's the latter, because I'm scared that my account could've been hacked.

Users cannot delete their own threads so it was obviously the latter.

Log said:
Users cannot delete their own threads so it was obviously the latter.

Not so obvious, because I don't know if admins could/would edit my message in the first place!

Here's what I thought: If it was a hacker, he could have first edited my message to change its contents, which I undid; then he could have edited my message again to say something improper that would then have to be deleted by an admin.

(Which is far-fetched, but based on the comfortable assumption that admins don't edit others' messages, because if they did, it would be frustrating...)

Just so you know, janitors can also edit or delete comments and forum posts too -- not just admins or mods. So in addition to the 2 admins and 5 mods we have, any of these users could've been responsible.

And on that note, why do janitors even have this ability in the first place? Being able to edit or delete any forum thread can be incredibly destructive because their deletion is permanent, and there's no way to audit who did what (save possibly reviewing the HTTP requests sent to the server).

It really just aught to be restricted to admins and mods, because the janitor selection process usually isn't very thorough, and the quality of one's approvals isn't really a gauge for seeing if they'd be suitable for moderating a forum.

Simple: Spam.

Albert has only made one account a moderator in years and he disappeared within 3 days of receiving the upgrade. I alone have deleted at least half a dozen spam threads who knows how many the other janitors have.

Log said:
Simple: Spam.

Albert has only made one account a moderator in years and he disappeared within 3 days of receiving the upgrade. I alone have deleted at least half a dozen spam threads who knows how many the other janitors have.

Are you sure? I saw at least acouple of new moderators. Unless these moderators are different than the other ones.

User list says otherwise. In fact, we had a culling of inactive mods.

Speaking of inactive mods, is there a reason why we're still keeping rantuyetmai as one? After all, he did mysteriously go AWOL after he got caught (permanently) deleting duplicates AGAIN.

Log said:
Simple: Spam.

Since I can't see any deletion log, I don't know exactly how much spam people delete in their lives.

But asking for aliases of GameCube (nintendo_gamecube, game_cube, abbreviations, etc.) is not spam; it's just another request. Either you +1 or -1 (or ignore, or amend...) it. Deleting it is really frustrating, and I could've easily missed it in the middle of the other threads I create.

(To be fair, in retrospect, the aliases "gcn" and "ngc" were poor in comparison with "/ngc" and "/gcn", which are great, especially since according to forum #71485 jxh tries to stay away from non-slashed shortcuts when possible. It's also conceivable that Log, for some reason, didn't like that I linked to nintendo.com to illustrate usage of two aliases.)

Above all, please don't edit my messages without warning. I want to be accountable by my own words, or lack thereof. I suppose nobody won't ever need to edit my messages, but if I supposed wrong, at least a comment "EDIT: I'm John Doe and I removed this and that." would clarify one's intent.

Edits of forum posts and comments of other users should really appear here:

http://danbooru.donmai.us/mod_action

S1eth said:
Edits of forum posts and comments of other users should really appear here:

http://danbooru.donmai.us/mod_action

Thanks, I didn't know that page before you posted it days ago.

However, it seems to be futile for the purposes of this thread, nonetheless. That page apparently doesn't keep track of deletions or edits of forum posts at all.

Anyway, I guess I can simply ask for aliases of GameCube again.

Danielx21 said:
However, it seems to be futile for the purposes of this thread, nonetheless. That page apparently doesn't keep track of deletions or edits of forum posts at all.

He was suggesting that it be used for that purpose.

That, and/or maybe there should be a footer that indicates a post has been edited. eg:

Edited on <time> by <user>

Update:

My last message of post #1101140 was edited (by someone else, not me) to say "The fact that there is worse art is not a valid justification for appealing a post."

I did not say it with these words.

Don't blame me I don't even read comments.

Why, excatly, are you complaining about a comment on a deleted post with virtually no chance of being reapproved?

Because it's the principle that's at-issue here.

Maybe the comment itself doesn't mean very much given the reason you outlined, but that's no excuse for someone to go around unjustly[0] editing other people's comments (or forum posts). Even if it's done in a mostly-benign manner.

[0] A justified comment-edit would be, for example, removing spoilers.

The issue I have is that he didn't bother stating what he actually posted so we might have some kind of ballpark idea why it was edited, let alone if it was a mistake because he posted the polar opposite and someone hit edit instead of reply. He's just running around screaming wolf.

And I guess that's -- similarly to forum #74514 -- the crux of the matter: there isn't really any way to verify issues like this.

There's nothing we can do unless non-poster comment/forum post edits can be properly audited (or if Albert feels like grep-ing some server logfiles).

I don't have much to say except that it should definitely be policy for mods and janitors *not* to edit users' forum posts and comments unless the content is policy breaking (spam or spoilers), or maybe (and even this might be iffy) to fix broken syntax for linking to posts and the like.

If it's something that is simply off-topic, inflammatory, overly inane, or otherwise warranting being moderated, it should be buried or deleted, not edited.

Log said:
The issue I have is that he didn't bother stating what he actually posted so we might have some kind of ballpark idea why it was edited, let alone if it was a mistake because he posted the polar opposite and someone hit edit instead of reply. He's just running around screaming wolf.

Unless the functionality it radically different for DB1 vs testbooru, I cannot imagine any situation where you could confuse editing with replying.

I agree with Shinjidude that only TOS violations and link fixes (I think it is useful and non intrusive really) should be edited anything else should either be left as is or deleted (mod actions).

Shinjidude said:
If it's something that is simply off-topic, inflammatory, overly inane, or otherwise warranting being moderated, it should be buried or deleted, not edited.

No, not even deleted, since it removes evidence that a user is being a dipshit. Remember forum #31072, when Albert decided to make every Contributor pseudo-Janitors? Even Lalaca, as well-meaning as he is, got his ass burned off by Hazuki in forum #31274 for deleting comments.

I don't agree that people should be editing to fix post syntax either. We should be telling them to get it right, not following them around fixing their posts like a Roomba following a fat kid leaving crumbs everywhere.

Giving Janitors powers beyond approving/deleting posts is becoming a headache. You can trust seven Moderators with long-term experience on Danbooru to use their powers responsibly; try doing the same with forty-one Janitors of variable experience.