bunny_girl tag

MagicalAsparagus said:

Isn't a bunny girl anyone who wears a bunny suit?
As to girls with real bunny ears, well, we don't have cat_girl or dog_girl. It's covered by *_ears tag. So the bunny girl tag actually IS an exception.

Actually it is not, the other tags haven't been populated either (I guess I'm the only one who will have to do it?). To prove the point, you'll note that neither dog_girl nor cat_girl alias over to their respective *_ear tags, and this is because they were de-aliased, along with bunny_girl.

evazion said:

But bunny girl is ambiguous. It's used both for playboy bunnies and "real" bunny girls (that is, usagimimi, which by the way is already aliased to bunny ears). These are two different things and should not be conflated.

It was already established that the animal ears tags do not = animal people tags. "Real" bunny girls should be put under the bunny_girl tag.

Toks said:

Read topic #9396.

But doesn't the last post actually prove that ears and tails are more effective?

MagicalAsparagus said:

And I just don't understand what makes a "playboy" bunny girl different from any other girl who wears a bunnysuit.

The bunnysuit originated with playboy, so there is no difference. All bunnysuits are playboy bunnysuits.

But actual bunny girls (as in, they're not even human) are different from a human girl wearing a costume.

NWF_Renim said:

It was already established that the animal ears tags do not = animal people tags. "Real" bunny girls should be put under the bunny_girl tag.

But if we do that people will just keep filling the bunny_girl tag with bunnysuits and the tag will be unusable. It would be nice to come up with a different name that's not ambiguous.

Okay, I may be retarded, but I still don't understand why animal_name_girl doesn't equate animal_name_ears and tail. Could you explain in simple terms?

MagicalAsparagus said:

Okay, I may be retarded, but I still don't understand why animal_name_girl doesn't equate animal_name_ears and tail. Could you explain in simple terms?

Because for the bulk of animal parts, the thing that defines what kind of animal ears they are is based on what kind of animal person the character is. Wolf ears get tagged wolf ears, not because we know the ears indicate they're wolf ears, but because we've defined the character as a wolf girl/boy. To prove this point, look at Holo and you'll see she doesn't get tagged fox_ears or fox_tail, despite the fact that individually those features would define themselves as pertaining to a fox (sorry, there aren't any wolves that have those color patterns). The only reason her ears are getting identified as "wolf" is because the character was identified as such.

IMO better examples would be the ears that are more ambiguous. For example post #1819890 (NSFW) is tagged "cat_ears" but what is identifying them as "cat ears"? It isn't the ears, it is because the character was identified as a "cat girl" which in turn defined that the animal ears she has are "cat ears." Visually they aren't that different from mouse ears like in post #1812348, which in its own case are only being defined as mouse ears because the character is defined as a mouse girl instead of say a rat girl.

edit: Another example: post #701229 gets tagged dog_ears, but the only thing that identifies them as such as having identified the character as a dog girl. Visually they're not different from generic cat ears.

Toks said:

But if we do that people will just keep filling the bunny_girl tag with bunnysuits and the tag will be unusable. It would be nice to come up with a different name that's not ambiguous.

Remove the suit then? The bunnysuit/bunny_girl tags were always the biggest thorn in the matter, due to how established it was and naming.

Why not just tag Playboy bunnies as playboy bunny? It would also be more general than bunnysuit because it includes Playboy bunnies not wearing a bunnysuit (e.g. post #1463057).

Since the majority of bunny girl is Playboy bunnies, it'd probably be easiest to mass edit bunny girl -> playboy bunny then manually move back the ones that are literal bunny girls.

NWF Renim, I got your point. But if for example we tag a girl tagged wolf ears and wolf tail also as wolf girl wouldn't it be redundant?..

Wolf girl is more general than wolf ears or wolf tail. It lets you search wolf girl and find all wolf girls, no matter whether they have only the ears, only the tail, or both.

MagicalAsparagus said:

NWF Renim, I got your point. But if for example we tag a girl tagged wolf ears and wolf tail also as wolf girl wouldn't it be redundant?..

I recognize it as predominantly redundant, but it's not like the parts tags don't have their own uses either. The animal_gender tags and animal_parts tags don't perfectly overlap, and both things help define each other even if not all the pieces are present. Also I think it'd be hard to avoid having x_animal girl/boy not getting tagged x_animal ears.

Ideally I would like sometimes the tags to seemingly conflict, like Holo being tagged wolf_girl (what she is identified as), but the parts tagged fox_ears and fox_tail (which the parts identify themselves as). Also a bunny girl wearing cat ears not tagged cat_girl, but being tagged just bunny_girl and cat_ears (post #1813813).

On the matter of the playboy bunnies, would be nice imo to have a tag for the base part of the suit without the ears, because going by the bunnysuit tag, Leotard is just too broad imo as the alternative.

NWF_Renim said:

On the matter of the playboy bunnies, would be nice imo to have a tag for the base part of the suit without the ears, because going by the bunnysuit tag, Leotard is just too broad imo as the alternative.

I agree on this, because it makes searching for the suits with different animal ears (besides kittysuit which has its own tag) a little frustrating. For instance, if you're searching for it with mouse ears, mouse_ears leotard gets you some relevant results mixed in with a number that are not. You can combine the different usual parts (like detached_collar and wrist_cuffs) but you have to hope they got tagged. Sometimes even leotard wasn't tagged (like post #1122970).

And here's an example of one where that kind of tag (what to name it?) would be needed: post #1837899 (base suit but no ears).

Just throwing out names that could be used: playboy_leotard, bunnysuit_leotard, playboy_bunny_leotard

strapless_leotard?

Gollgagh said:

strapless_leotard?

The images would qualify for that, but that does also broaden what should end up under the tag. Examples: post #1233849, post #1783401, post #1752812, post #1747506. Just something that needs to be taken into consideration with the naming and purpose of the tag.

Could potentially have both a tag for the bunnysuit style leotard and also have a more general one for strapless leotards, if the bunnysuit style one is unique enough.

NWF_Renim said:

Could potentially have both a tag for the bunnysuit style leotard and also have a more general one for strapless leotards, if the bunnysuit style one is unique enough.

I agree.

In any case, I've decided to populate playboy_bunny_leotard.

Should bunny girl become unaliased from bunnysuit? There is still no tag for bunny girls that have natural animal ears and not wearing the playboy bunny leotard.

It is also inconsistent with other tags:

bunnyboy - Boy with natural bunny ears and bunny tail.
bunny boy - Male equivalent of bunnysuit.

bunnygirl - Aliased to bunnysuit (a Playboy bunny).
bunny girl - Covers both girls in bunnysuits and girls with natural bunny ears and bunny tail.

rabbit girl - Apparently used for girls with natural features like bunnyboy, but terribly underpopulated.

Why is bunnygirl (without space) used for the Playboy type and bunny boy (with space) used for the Playboy type?

Why not simply have bunny girl for Playboy Bunny outfits, and analogues; and rabbit girl for girls dressed as rabbits, and analogues ?

Anyway, I thought a catsuit was a specific woman's garment of the 1960s --- oddly enough associated with the 'cool music', Playboy, Sinatra etc. culture --- that was one of those uniquely American one-piece clothes for women. Cf: Onesies, Rompers, Farmers' Coveralls ( called overalls, and less extensive in olden times outside America ), Dungarees, Jumpsuits etc..

It just seems a little bit odd to use the bunny prefix for every tag (bunny ears, bunny tail, bunny suit, etc.) except for rabbit girl. It would also be difficult to find when using the auto-complete, it's not one of the options when typing "bunny". That's probably why it's so underused.