I see. That makes sense. Best exclude that page then.
Edit: Yup, much better.
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Shinjidude said: In addition to contributors that regularly post flag-worthy things, we also have people in that group that were nepotism-invited while Danbooru was still closed to the public, and auto-promoted to Contributor when the class was first made due to their post counts.
There must have been a culling at some point, because there are only 6 contributors in the user list with less than 25 uploads. But your point is very much valid. Not all (any?) contributors have been chosen with the assumption that they'd be good judges of what to approve. That's a different responsibility from being trusted with what they upload, which has looser standards.
This makes who is and who is not a contributor enormously more significant than it was before. And if we're going to do this there needs to be a serious look at who stays at that level.
albert said:
It's very likely that some contributors will not make good approvers. Users now have a flag, independent of level, that determines whether or not they can approve posts. This is a flag that moderators can toggle from the user's profile page.
This is pretty much useless without the ability to see who is approving what. Contributor approvals should be public, or at least visible to mods. Come to think of it, this would be a good way of determining which users would make good janitors.
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Albert, could we please have this change reverted and properly discussed before anything is reintroduced? It's extremely intrusive and potentially very harmful in hard to revert ways. I'd hate to see you disappear for three days while the damage is being done and mods are wasting their energy on finding contributors who shouldn't have their approval bit on.
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I'm noticing that the Recent Approvals page is going to be quite difficult to use if posts aren't listed by when they're approved. If I'm refreshing page 1 and something 70 hours old gets approved, I will never see it. I also won't be able to tell where I left off from last check.
Uh, whoa.
I can kind of see this sort of working, but definitely not with contributors given the power to delete posts, delete comments, reapprove stuff, etc. etc. I'd say limit the powers of contributors to just approving new, less-than-three-day-old posts. You could make the identity of the approver public, call it like "this post was sponsored for acceptance by [contributor user's name]" or something, I dunno. I don't think it'll cause a huge amount of drama because again this is not really a right of contributor users in the first place, it's just provisional at this point.
Giving contributors the ability to undelete is an awful idea (hopefully unintentional).
Undeletions are untracked from what jxh2154 was saying in the other thread and many contributors have had posts of theirs flagged and deleted in the past.
It'd be a real dick sort of thing to do, but there is nothing now keeping them from undeleting their own deleted posts, and no tracking to keep them accountable if they do.
That much needs reverted at the very least.
I'm not touching this with a five foot pole, I don't really trust that I could use these mod powers properly. True enough that I try to upload things which gets approval in Danbooru, but Contributors aren't perfect, and I'm not sure it'll reflect when looking at the mod queue. Chances are this'll just lead to issues, but I do wonder where this'll go. I also do completely agree Contributors should not be able to undelete any posts at all.
Well, there are site backups, if I'm not mistaken. As long as it's done quickly, if things really head south we can always just revert to before this change.
But like I said, I guess it could work. Contributors' new privileges need to be WAY toned down, though. Just "able to approve new posts, with accountability" should be enough.